From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AC313838B for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 16:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBB08E08C7; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 16:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f52.google.com (mail-wg0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A598BE0880 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 16:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a1so4798277wgh.35 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:27:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sIZH4U4uSRkjy3qvzlNcj8xShE//X7e8YzHMKEWmexs=; b=0GG6hfTW4gN0QH5fNrVVIsdS28jPs+ytIjU5TI7R0i400JAoB0V52KIRh9kRfDt199 8DyM2m8A+QPPV6PXaoOo8zt3tiJUEMbjqU7Pa+1zMJU9yeiO7RwFZwzCjqL1pne/rXRK Z8/3YT0DI+bY8s21dlheXq7KSRR1sftOT1/OxgRzCcCg55enrJY0jesd9Vc6BiNwu0Ol 0xRs31kkEUcUqLgY+6YudBkMC0tivQn51dmSxYeP/28CHwFh3gR7f2XAM+iyG8d8cLWC vw27FEGCGhrNldKKlApse4QIjJ1O+XlE7uXyFqVXgFXAsqSzOmGAEop8cpnCmmzhXdge 4U8A== X-Received: by 10.194.209.207 with SMTP id mo15mr23045885wjc.6.1412526440138; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (105-237-231-134.access.mtnbusiness.co.za. [105.237.231.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u10sm5680921wix.8.2014.10.05.09.27.18 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54317162.50508@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2014 18:27:14 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5? References: <543144E8.9090206@libertytrek.org> <54316546.7070407@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6a72eeba-3f6c-467a-9863-7350c130b54b X-Archives-Hash: f11e4f9e3d3b316abff1a68d4441bda8 On 05/10/2014 17:50, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 10/06/2014 02:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 10/5/2014 11:01 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: >>> I'd be interested to know what KDE negatives you've >>> experienced/heard in the past though. >> >> Bloat, buggy/unstable ever since the move from KDE3 to KDE4 (and never >> really gotten any better over time), etc... >> >> But of course there are always haters too... I'm sure it isn't as bad as >> the loudest complainers make it sound... >> >> > > There were definitely issues in KDE 4 early days but there have been > substantial improvements since then. Regarding bloat/performance, this > biggest complaints seem to be about nepomuk/baloo. We provide the > semantic-desktop USE flag to provide the option of disabling this > feature wherever it's possible. People do complain about nepomuk/baloo, but in my opinion it's mostly unwarranted. The first indexing action did always take a long time (and so does mlocate) but once that's done, I found it didn't really impact the system all that much. My real beef is with akonadi and kdepim. I could never get the damn thing to actually work or to tell me what it was doing in a manner I could understand. The last straw was around KDE-4.4 when the importer managed to destroy my entire mail store and leave me with nothing, so I switched to claws and several years later switched again to Thunderbird. I keep reading reports that kdepim is nowadays so much better and stable, but to be frank I do not trust it, and likely never will. I also understand this is not entirely logical, but it's just the way it is. The rest of KDE I find to be very usable and rather pleasant to use. My sole remaining gripe is lack of stored sessions in dolphin :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com