From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8DF13838B for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F17D2E0AFB; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E8D1E0A9A for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:09:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (mobile-internet-bceeb2-119.dhcp.inet.fi [188.238.178.119]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 561CD33F7F8 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5424F3F2.2020808@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:04:50 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) alternatives ? References: <54245C36.50507@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 50195584-d729-4e66-950f-5c4df622cb40 X-Archives-Hash: 62acbc92781de923bfa8c1095e5a6c52 On 25/09/14 22:03, James wrote: > Samuli Suominen gentoo.org> writes: > > >>> Any other caveats (short term) on switching udev to eudev? >> in fact, from what I last checked, eudev's networking is at same level >> with udev-208, from time before the .link support at all > ah, back when ethernet defaulted to eth0 not "enp5s0" ? nope, 208 was back when 80-net-name-slot.rules predictable rules were used which ignored kernel metadata for predictable networking i.e. the insufficient implementatition, which got replaced by 99-default.link and 80-net-link-setup.rules what you are referring is the buggy pre-udev-197 networking, which you can unfortunately still get with USE="rule-generator", it will keep renaming your interfaces despite kernel telling not to, so kernel drivers that mark eth0 as stable, might get renamed to eg. eth1 if you have 2 cards it's really messy, only 209 (and higher) handles things right, the new .link setup, with kernel naming support > > >> eudev is really useful only for sys-libs/musl users at this time, but >> you are free to experiment with it! > so lilblue (Anthony's amd64 hardened gentoo) is the only candidate I can > think of with musl? So I choose this, then profile must be set to: > > (eslect profile list): > [16] hardened/linux/musl/amd64 > > > I'd be better of with a fresh install of lilblue + musl + eudev > is what you are really saying here? > > > that's the only usecase for eudev currently, yes, otherwise you have no reason to switch