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[105.237.204.219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pm2sm3099954wic.13.2014.09.16.13.43.53 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5418A0C1.7000500@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:42:41 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo References: <20140916042924.GA26321@syscon7> <20140916150243.GD26321@syscon7> <20140916180555.GE26321@syscon7> <20140916202324.GA7543@syscon7> In-Reply-To: <20140916202324.GA7543@syscon7> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 25b0849c-f023-4d5d-b219-2e3efc63bd9c X-Archives-Hash: 24469be85c60e28903806840a6702938 On 16/09/2014 22:23, Joseph wrote: > On 09/16/14 19:58, James wrote: > [snip] >> >> Folks that work on precise computer problems are often "raw" with >> one another. "Sarcasm" is an ointment that soothes the pain >> of running Gentoo. Verbal abuse develops "thick skin" and most >> here on Gentoo User have "thick skin", imho. Devs on this >> list often question the gentoo-user base to ferret out if they >> need to modify docs, codes or semantics at Gentoo, or if the user >> needs. Sometime it does resemble a court room. >> >> "Alan's school of admin abuse" type of treatment to motivate >> an excellent user base is not uncommon. >> >> That said, the amount of questions and bandwidth you have incurred >> on this group, does warrant administrative incursion into you >> admin policies, imho. Maybe, just maybe, folks actually care >> that you are wisely successful with Gentoo? >> >> For example since you are distributing, you really need to keep >> binaries packages on at least one system. I nuked python, some >> years ago. It was only the files on another similar system that >> prevent me form a new installation of the system. >> >> Besides, I rather think you are being "groomed" to become a gentoo >> dev, so you can abuse the rest of of (gentoo users) commoners? >> >> >> hth, >> James > > Thank for suggestions, yes I usually keep the binaries for as long as I > have enough room on "/" :-) > If I'm short on space I periodically nuke them. I've manged to keep the > system going for the last 10-years > and keep my own help-file.txt (notes) how to solve certain problem (but > not all :-/) > > I sometime clean the distribution files with this command (I'm sure > there might be a better way). > ----------------- > cd /usr/portage/distfiles > > and run this command: > (emerge -epf world 2>&1 | perl -ne '$f=join("\n", > m@\w://[^\s]+/([^\s]+)@g); print "$f\n" if $f' | sort -u; ls -f) | sort > | uniq -c | perl -ane 'print "$F[1]\n" if $F[0]==1 && -f $F[1]' | xargs > rm -f eclean (in package gentoolkit) > ------------------ > > Regarding keeping the binaries, I'll need to learn how to install > compiled binaries from another box. Never, had a chance to do it yet. scp/rsync/whatever from one source to $PKGDIR on dest then emerge -k (or -K depending if you want to fall back to regular compile from source or not) or, nfs mount $PKGDIR on the source to $PKGDIR on the dest machine and you don't have to scp/rysnc -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com