From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C7813877A for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 16:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B281AE07EC; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 16:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from uberouter3.guranga.net (unknown [81.19.48.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B444E0384 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 16:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (86-41-234-206-dynamic.b-ras1.mgr.mullingar.eircom.net [86.41.234.206]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uberouter3.guranga.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD6D2BD8 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:16:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <5405ED4E.2090802@thegeezer.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 17:16:14 +0100 From: thegeezer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] making bootable USB References: <20140902010802.70b66b75@digimed.co.uk> <20140902002605.GJ15640@syscon7> <201409020636.17608.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20140902055515.GL15640@syscon7> <54056271.7020704@gmail.com> <20140902083540.182ae359@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <54057934.8060404@gmail.com> <20140902131046.GM15640@syscon7> <5405C86C.7090804@thegeezer.net> <20140902141008.GN15640@syscon7> In-Reply-To: <20140902141008.GN15640@syscon7> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: bac35188-fd9c-4e0f-945f-0009a6c8e843 X-Archives-Hash: 7f98710ce79dab5e913eef30ad66eac3 On 02/09/14 15:10, Joseph wrote: > On 09/02/14 14:38, thegeezer wrote: >> On 02/09/14 14:10, Joseph wrote: >>> On 09/02/14 10:56, Mick wrote: >>>> On 2 September 2014 09:00, Dale wrote: >>>>> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 01:23:45 -0500, Dale wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>>> /dev/sdb1 * 0 389119 194560 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know if it matters or not but on one of my sticks, I get >>>>>>> this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>> /dev/sde1 * 1 3915775 1957887+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mine is FAT32 where yours is NTFS. Could that difference cause >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> problem? >>>>>> No, it's just fdisk trying to guess the type of a filesystem that >>>>>> isn't >>>>>> actually there. I've just run it over 7 distro ISOs and got "Hidden >>>>>> HPFS/NTFS" for 5 of them. >>>>> >>>>> Well, it seems everyone is grasping at straws. So far, that is the >>>>> only >>>>> difference I have seen. It's a head scratcher for sure. >>>>> >>>>> Dale >>>> >>>> There's some more straws to grasp, namely the partition table that the >>>> OP created with fdisk, as well as the first partition on it: >>>> >>>> Assuming the USB is still on /dev/sdb, then use fdisk to delete >>>> partition /dev/sdb1. >>>> >>>> Then manually delete the USB DOS partition table: >>>> >>>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 >>>> >>>> >>>> Finally, reinstall the iso once more without creating any partitions >>>> manually: >>>> >>>> dd if=/home/joseph/Downloads/install-amd64-minimal-20140828.iso >>>> of=/dev/sdb >>>> >>>> sync >>>> >>>> NOTE: Make sure that /dev/sdb is indeed your USB stick or you'll >>>> cause damage >>>> to whatever is on /dev/sdb. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Mick >>> >>> I just did as you suggested dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 >>> dd if=/home/joseph/Downloads/install-amd64-minimal-20140828.iso >>> of=/dev/sdb >>> sync >>> >>> make no difference, the USB still will not boot. >> What actually happens when you try to boot ? >> do you get any messages? >> some bios will require you to specify usb boot device type of cdrom or >> hard disk >> do you have a press F11 for boot choices menu or similar? >> it could be that you have usb cdrom selected as primary boot device, ide >> disk as secondary and then "other removables" after this. >> please confirm your bios boot orders >> > > Booting sequence is USB and HD. If I will not insert bootable USB it > will boot from HD > It works, as the bootable USB I created with Systemrescue CD script it > worked. When I plug in the USB stick it boots from it. > However, there is a difference between USB-CDROM and USB-HDD and USB-FDD each of these is a different type of device. which is set in your BIOS ? the systemrescue-cd must be a version that your bios recognises, if your bios doesn't like USB-HDD boot then that is most likely the issue you have. have you tried installing grub2 and doing a direct iso boot ? the gentoo minimal install cd support doing this for a long time now, and is my preferred route as you can load on the iso images and just change the grub conf menus