From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2326C13877A for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18AC4E0A53; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f176.google.com (mail-we0-f176.google.com [74.125.82.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55EC2E0A49 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id q58so10821199wes.21 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:11:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2ZDQ3rPxnuBk0rTwzkDMDY1rniuQQQaLBwciUzU1/4E=; b=n2wON7LrZ6+qv2O8qZXKnoUG7sJ1xU+9Zu9Fn/am1QNdyL++QiaAz0DAktS68+fo5+ D0wWVB0/QJKwTTnq31VcmJMMqywRCEbEvAUTLsMHMr2G5SLXhTF5S1rcRG6yQ3gHo/Uh fhu/lJ9t29Q64cvGHpaauFJmc3kDwy9XTOsl3yRhHMv28IctI+yPfnE5zArkmnqs77Ua YZZBJEXohupzoLDjHhlms196jYTSjJyqaceZhQfURig9AfwH9t0TysY3btmUiNHNpEjb V2ree7pjrm7twp37CgruXGvxGKABsoNyy/9d8xBiJAKNh6CV3Fm0puO24S3uE1VIzT2G 0KhA== X-Received: by 10.180.19.1 with SMTP id a1mr18698210wie.16.1407913881990; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.40] ([41.85.145.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ga2sm2402456wjb.44.2014.08.13.00.11.20 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EB0F5E.7020203@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:10:22 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it? References: <201408092100.58965.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <93a075f9-f022-4051-a7eb-3d6e67561e9a@email.android.com> <53EA691B.2040306@gmail.com> <3173296.k7lA9hJYeK@andromeda> In-Reply-To: <3173296.k7lA9hJYeK@andromeda> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f4ce780d-c4de-4a05-8f9b-41542a82a0f8 X-Archives-Hash: 21ac803621939d78557c3307684abcfc On 13/08/2014 08:38, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> The good thing about php is that everyone and their dog can knock out >> > running code. >> > The bad thing about php is that they do. > Not PHP's fault, lazy developers' fault. > I disagree. It starts with the language. If a language makes it trivially simple to write atrocious code, and makes the developer jump through hoops to write decent code, then the language is faulty. PHP is like that. Bash is also like that, omfg; bash seems to have been designed to make decent code fundamentally impossible to write... -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com