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[217.82.197.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c8sm8002997wjw.6.2014.08.12.11.21.03 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EA5B0F.9070909@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:21:03 +0200 From: Volker Armin Hemmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it? References: <201408092100.58965.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <53EA18C7.6080800@gmail.com> <3717332.DIJMXoBY7Q@andromeda> In-Reply-To: <3717332.DIJMXoBY7Q@andromeda> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f08099ad-e3fa-4aad-982a-c5d9fda0d1a6 X-Archives-Hash: 7e0d4dfece099945e4f7c244746850e9 Am 12.08.2014 um 16:10 schrieb J. Roeleveld: > On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 03:38:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 12/08/2014 15:28, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On 12 August 2014 14:06:07 CEST, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >>>> On 12/08/2014 11:10, Mick wrote: >>>>> I recall the devs explicitly stating early enough in the KDE4 >>>> development that >>>> >>>>> sqlite is not man enough for the job and advising everyone to move >>>> over to >>>> >>>>> mysql. >>>>> >>>>> Someone was looking at postgresql as an alternative to mysql, but I'm >>>> not sure >>>> >>>>> that this would bring any benefit. >>>> pg is a fine database, but for this use will always be a 2nd class >>>> citizen. Most users will already have mysql installed, or will be >>>> willing to install it. >>>> >>>> The number of folks with pg and without mysql will probably be small >>> Not necessarily. >>> People who care about databases actually supporting SQL properly and >>> performing properly will prefer PostgreSQL. >>> >>> I don't like to be forced to run a MySQL instance as well. It's often the >>> laziness of developers that causes the difficulty of supporting a >>> different database when they started with MySQL. If you start with a >>> different one, like PostgrSQL, supporting different database engines is >>> very simple. >> I don't think you read what I said. > Sorry, didn't read the below in what you put. > >> I didn't say postgresql shouldn't be supported, I said it would always >> end up being a second class citizen as the number of people who'd be >> happy with mysql will vastly outnumber the number of people who highly >> desire postgresql. So, logically, a postgresql driver in this case will >> probably just bitrot away. Whihc nicely explains the likely reason why >> that driver is not there. > It wouldn't bitrot away as there would be people willing to keep it working, > provided it wouldn't require a MySQL -> SQL translator to be kept up-to-date. > >> People like yourself who care about databases are very much in the >> minority of users, even on Linux. Most users across the boards just >> don't give a shit. Them's the breaks. > Users never care about what they install. I just wish the majority of > developers would actually be willing to follow some simple guidelines to make > it actually possible to others to write and maintain the drivers to connect to > different databases. > > Several attempts have been made by people to add support for different > databases to various projects. I've tried to do it myself on occasion, but > even when patches are accepted by upstream, they get broken by upstream at a > future release again because of the bad design that is often employed by lazy > developers. > > -- > Joost > > wasn't qtsql once supposed to that?