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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it?
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:21:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53EA5B0F.9070909@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3717332.DIJMXoBY7Q@andromeda>

Am 12.08.2014 um 16:10 schrieb J. Roeleveld:
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 03:38:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 12/08/2014 15:28, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> On 12 August 2014 14:06:07 CEST, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>>>> On 12/08/2014 11:10, Mick wrote:
>>>>> I recall the devs explicitly stating early enough in the KDE4
>>>> development that
>>>>
>>>>> sqlite is not man enough for the job and advising everyone to move
>>>> over to
>>>>
>>>>> mysql.
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone was looking at postgresql as an alternative to mysql, but I'm
>>>> not sure
>>>>
>>>>> that this would bring any benefit.
>>>> pg is a fine database, but for this use will always be a 2nd class
>>>> citizen. Most users will already have mysql installed, or will be
>>>> willing to install it.
>>>>
>>>> The number of folks with pg and without mysql will probably be small
>>> Not necessarily.
>>> People who care about databases actually supporting SQL properly and
>>> performing properly will prefer PostgreSQL.
>>>
>>> I don't like to be forced to run a MySQL instance as well. It's often the
>>> laziness of developers that causes the difficulty of supporting a
>>> different database when they started with MySQL. If you start with a
>>> different one, like PostgrSQL, supporting different database engines is
>>> very simple.
>> I don't think you read what I said.
> Sorry, didn't read the below in what you put.
>
>> I didn't say postgresql shouldn't be supported, I said it would always
>> end up being a second class citizen as the number of people who'd be
>> happy with mysql will vastly outnumber the number of people who highly
>> desire postgresql. So, logically, a postgresql driver in this case will
>> probably just bitrot away. Whihc nicely explains the likely reason why
>> that driver is not there.
> It wouldn't bitrot away as there would be people willing to keep it working, 
> provided it wouldn't require a MySQL -> SQL translator to be kept up-to-date.
>
>> People like yourself who care about databases are very much in the
>> minority of users, even on Linux. Most users across the boards just
>> don't give a shit. Them's the breaks.
> Users never care about what they install. I just wish the majority of 
> developers would actually be willing to follow some simple guidelines to make 
> it actually possible to others to write and maintain the drivers to connect to 
> different databases.
>
> Several attempts have been made by people to add support for different 
> databases to various projects. I've tried to do it myself on occasion, but 
> even when patches are accepted by upstream, they get broken by upstream at a 
> future release again because of the bad design that is often employed by lazy 
> developers.
>
> --
> Joost
>
>
wasn't qtsql once supposed to that?


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-12 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-09 20:00 [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it? Mick
2014-08-10  9:34 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-08-12  7:05   ` Mick
2014-08-11 18:01 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-08-11 21:45   ` Mick
2014-08-12  5:36     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-08-12  6:42       ` Alan McKinnon
2014-08-12  9:10         ` Mick
2014-08-12 12:06           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-08-12 13:28             ` J. Roeleveld
2014-08-12 13:38               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-08-12 14:10                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-08-12 18:21                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2014-08-12 19:00                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-08-12 19:20                       ` Alan McKinnon
2014-08-13  6:38                         ` J. Roeleveld
2014-08-13  7:10                           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-08-13 12:18                             ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2014-08-13 12:26                               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-08-11 19:05 ` [gentoo-user] " Mick
2014-08-11 22:21   ` Neil Bothwick
2014-08-12  0:38     ` Rich Freeman
2014-08-12  7:31       ` Neil Bothwick
2014-08-12  8:08         ` Peter Humphrey
2014-08-12 14:38         ` Daniel Frey
2014-08-12 17:54           ` Rich Freeman
2014-08-12  1:00     ` Dale
2014-08-12  7:57       ` Walter Dnes
2014-08-12  8:19         ` Alan McKinnon

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