From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-157897-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AFD13877A for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7811E0B33; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com (mail-wg0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE6D5E0B2B for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id m15so9452967wgh.29 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:38:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l5HNjmOgIP3OIFUPCn0/HWAGkVb7lj+EIdasTj5r71w=; b=f0DR6AOUEH9YNDKWs2fG8TFLIRpqrrZHT6+OhNqZda9LfN/uLiz1ygr1jXrWJLpE5N 5atuJtjowNeVtPXbPMVhXz0uAOdM7jstp7+LHyENnpSxg+JX5H04/9CxbacmvP+72Eqs Pztu3XSDqTQgvSo3uoDMqm77pCOpoNnuWUoalFPfphgzMSqgpUo5CfJjX/7v3pX/BrDv hauiaAVOMOSw5mW4j5ty7bG3AA2cWi1EVBpnER26VxIXwsRWKHtzW4Fxh0peFdSk4xR+ VCyLkACiWIn9ObRuia+n3AoHNQVLBR53IqpbVV18PC5t3J+A/LrqyWj8PFDba7Y//k/H GusQ== X-Received: by 10.194.19.200 with SMTP id h8mr2915338wje.40.1407825526370; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (105-237-190-183.access.mtnbusiness.co.za. [105.237.190.183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bf3sm52593901wib.18.2014.08.11.23.38.45 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E9B640.3080507@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:37:52 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] unclear (to me) errors from portage References: <87egwrzmcx.fsf@nyu.edu> <fa18f8ad-7026-4d65-9a68-fb888ab2ffd7@email.android.com> <53E5E7AB.2040909@gmail.com> <3913299.blVAWFiYDA@andromeda> In-Reply-To: <3913299.blVAWFiYDA@andromeda> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 506b7675-1dc0-4fcd-8fef-abd4f021df4e X-Archives-Hash: 4551bf74e12e50700a236029620a3889 On 12/08/2014 07:43, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> Plus, I refuse under any circumstances to run Gentoo on production >> > unless it's backed by a huge build farm or I have a large cluster that >> > are all identical and have very special needs. > I use Gentoo exclusively on the servers and desktops at home. I find it easier > and more logical to maintain. > I do have a VM dedicated to building binary packages though. > I just got really tired of eternally being The Only One In The Place Who Knows Gentoo(tm) and who doesn't blindly "emerge -uND world" on a remote box then walk away.... At least with apt and yum juniors can be trained fairly quickly to do reliable world updates safely. This keeps the boss off my neck. That makes me happy. On my personal servers and laptops, it will take on the order of atomic warfare to make me give up my beloved Gentoo there :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com