From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B434113877A for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2BB7E089D; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 921A1E085D for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id b13so6412753wgh.22 for ; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 06:57:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Km/p0qiLjrbUZ6BwGu7/gxmxZamzUMdxIZy3STVWFxA=; b=tHq2JapPmEtH63N6Ly8q6rqavvEbX+XREJsJdLF/kFwKtuIxwrX66ZT8qXdYue2zLI Z+FjofJNx5jSh7wUMBWB5NJVUgG50fA2JeQO37P46LSD52hBnwxhxkQ1PVCUSaTjkqz2 rz3Lm07B8eRX7X27Bg7WrOkSLB74R4q/JpcJD9LqBKwT+1C8IR7Owtnu8/3l9pgNFAMI 0U6IuIJ45hE67OdWbmNT3zMY4/M8XngYvsmcdtuwnJT9YW3CKnNlMjy8+ACldxAdA/go FN9fcLoUSDeLPJv2wk72adoYthwk6pgJrXYS+aSzTWL8iLmqv/GY1Wacvw3vL1oN808m dPRA== X-Received: by 10.180.97.102 with SMTP id dz6mr21734367wib.61.1407074275029; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 06:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (105-237-190-183.access.mtnbusiness.co.za. [105.237.190.183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ko8sm36040839wjc.11.2014.08.03.06.57.53 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Aug 2014 06:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53DE3FAD.90703@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:57:01 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling References: <53D93323.1060300@googlemail.com> <20140730200549.02099352@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <53D94C04.10204@gmail.com> <53D95636.5010401@googlemail.com> <20140731015540.GA19648@waltdnes.org> <53D9AECF.6080902@googlemail.com> <53D9BD1B.8040109@alectenharmsel.com> <53DA02A1.60007@googlemail.com> <20140801031619.GA28433@waltdnes.org> <53DBC6ED.4060409@gmail.com> <20140803025929.GA2092@waltdnes.org> In-Reply-To: <20140803025929.GA2092@waltdnes.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1ec7e11b-d771-4f81-82e4-867418655136 X-Archives-Hash: 9320282e765bcfcc29f7becd94b10c14 On 03/08/2014 04:59, Walter Dnes wrote: >> phonon is not an okular dependency. > It is a "deep dependancy". kde-base/kdelibs-4.12.5-r1.ebuild has a > "COMMONDEPEND=" block which includes ">=media-libs/phonon-4.4.3". And > media-libs/phonon-4.6.0-r1.ebuild has the following line... > > REQUIRED_USE="|| ( aqua gstreamer vlc )" > > In gentoo, *ANY* kde app which runs on the kde infrastructure requires > phonon, and one of aqua/gstreamer/vlc, unless you resort to ugly hackery > as per http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/276393 OK. But my original point still stands: Okular is not designed to be a stand-alone app, it is designed to run in the context of something bigger. And that context is KDE. KDE is a full-featured desktop environment, it assumes that the user will want phonon and everything that comes with it, plus plasma. So when you emerge okular and get a boat load of new deps pulled in, why are you surprised when that goes the way it is designed, the way it says on the box? It's not a stand-alone app. This is also not Windows, here you have choices and there's no shortage of pdf readers out there. Pick another one -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com