[gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[James]

Howdy,

I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I 
want to keep around, from  removal, via depclean.


However, I use to just manually edit the world file and 
explicitly list the kernel sources versions I wanted to keep.
This does not seem to work anymore?

Other suggestions to keep the kernel sources around ?

James

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[Alan McKinnon]

On 01/08/2014 18:58, James wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I 
> want to keep around, from  removal, via depclean.
> 
> 
> However, I use to just manually edit the world file and 
> explicitly list the kernel sources versions I wanted to keep.
> This does not seem to work anymore?
> 
> Other suggestions to keep the kernel sources around ?


put gentoo-sources in world, you then always get the latest.

test each one , decide which are worth keeping. Let's say for argument
that is 3.15.4, so:

emerge -n =gentoo-sources-3.15.4

All versions not listed thusly are subject to depcleaning


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: --exclude gentoo-sources

[James]

Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes:


> > I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I 
> > want to keep around, from  removal, via depclean.

> put gentoo-sources in world, you then always get the latest.
> test each one , decide which are worth keeping. Let's say for argument
> that is 3.15.4, so:
> emerge -n =gentoo-sources-3.15.4
> All versions not listed thusly are subject to depcleaning


I found this  make.conf idea, whilst googling:

# Keeps depclean from removing gentoo-sources
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--exclude gentoo-sources"


Unfortunately, I had already manually fixed the problem
and ran depclean. So I'll just have to wait for a real test, 
but for now it passed the 'emerge --depclean -p' test.....

Have a good weekend, one and all!


thx,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[Alexander Kapshuk]

On 08/01/2014 07:58 PM, James wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I 
> want to keep around, from  removal, via depclean.
>
>
> However, I use to just manually edit the world file and 
> explicitly list the kernel sources versions I wanted to keep.
> This does not seem to work anymore?
>
> Other suggestions to keep the kernel sources around ?
>
> James
>
>
emerge(1)
Packages that are part of the world set will always be kept. They can be
manually added to this  set  with  emerge --noreplace <atom>.
E.g.
emerge --noreplace =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-x.x.x

Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[Alexander Kapshuk]

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Subject: 	Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources
Date: 	Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:12:06 +0300
From: 	Alexander Kapshuk <alexander.kapshuk@gmail.com>
To: 	gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org



On 08/01/2014 07:58 PM, James wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I 
> want to keep around, from  removal, via depclean.
>
>
> However, I use to just manually edit the world file and 
> explicitly list the kernel sources versions I wanted to keep.
> This does not seem to work anymore?
>
> Other suggestions to keep the kernel sources around ?
>
> James
>
>
emerge(1)
Packages that are part of the world set will always be kept. They can be
manually added to this  set  with  emerge --noreplace <atom>.
E.g.
emerge --noreplace =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-x.x.x

To remove the kernel sources pkg use:
emerge --deselect sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:x.x.x
>>> Removing sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:x.x.x from "world" favorites file...
Followed by 'emerge -a --depclean'




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Re: Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[Mick]

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On Friday 01 Aug 2014 18:15:12 Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources
> Date: 	Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:12:06 +0300
> From: 	Alexander Kapshuk <alexander.kapshuk@gmail.com>
> To: 	gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> 
> On 08/01/2014 07:58 PM, James wrote:
> > Howdy,
> > 
> > I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I
> > want to keep around, from  removal, via depclean.
> > 
> > 
> > However, I use to just manually edit the world file and
> > explicitly list the kernel sources versions I wanted to keep.
> > This does not seem to work anymore?
> > 
> > Other suggestions to keep the kernel sources around ?
> > 
> > James
> 
> emerge(1)
> Packages that are part of the world set will always be kept. They can be
> manually added to this  set  with  emerge --noreplace <atom>.
> E.g.
> emerge --noreplace =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-x.x.x
> 
> To remove the kernel sources pkg use:
> emerge --deselect sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:x.x.x
> 
> >>> Removing sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:x.x.x from "world" favorites file...
> 
> Followed by 'emerge -a --depclean'

Or if you're asking how to keep them forever, irrespective of what portage 
contains, you can copy the particular sources in your local overlay.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:58:33 +0000 (UTC), James wrote:

> Other suggestions to keep the kernel sources around ?

Put this is /etc/portage/sets.conf

[kernels]
class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet
world-candidate = False
files = /usr/src


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Things which must be shipped together as a set, aren't.

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Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[behrouz khosravi]

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I
> want to keep around, from  removal, via depclean.
>

Well I not a proficient user, but I think that depclean wont remove
packages from distfiles.
At least what happened to me was that depclean removed the sources
from /usr/src/ folder but the linux.xxx remained in the disfiles
folder.

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[Daniel Frey]

On 08/01/2014 01:19 PM, behrouz khosravi wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I
>> want to keep around, from  removal, via depclean.
>>
> 
> Well I not a proficient user, but I think that depclean wont remove
> packages from distfiles.
> At least what happened to me was that depclean removed the sources
> from /usr/src/ folder but the linux.xxx remained in the disfiles
> folder.
> 

If you want to clean the distfiles directory, use eclean-dist. It scans
what you have installed and removes sources that you don't need. Use
`eclean-dist --help` for more info.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[Alan McKinnon]

On 01/08/2014 22:19, behrouz khosravi wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I
>> want to keep around, from  removal, via depclean.
>>
> 
> Well I not a proficient user, but I think that depclean wont remove
> packages from distfiles.
> At least what happened to me was that depclean removed the sources
> from /usr/src/ folder but the linux.xxx remained in the disfiles
> folder.

You are confusing the distfile with the installed files.

A distfile is usually a tar.gz - it is the package downloaded from
upstream. The installed files are whatever the ebuild puts onto the live
system.

In the case of a binary package like say bash:
the distfile is bash-4.2.tar.gz
the installed file is /bin/bash

In the case of kernel sources, exactly the same rules apply but the
details differ:
the distfile is linux-3.15.tar.xz (plus patches)
the installed files are /usr/src/<whatever the version is>

kernel sources are a special case - portage does no compiling with them.
Kernel sources install is defined as "unpack the tarball and patches to
/usr/src"
Regular ebuilds define install as "whatever happens after ./configure &&
make && make install"



Here's a tip:
Go back and read the gentoo docs from beginning to end, all of them. Twice.

You are getting confused with gentoo basics and starting to jump the gun
because you haven't fully absorbed all the basics. Now there's nothing
wrong with your keenness and enthusiasm (that's great) but it needs to
be backed up with knowledge. You get that by reading the docs


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[behrouz khosravi]

On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> You are confusing the distfile with the installed ...

Well actually I was thinking that if somebody need the old kernel
source he/she can unpack the distfile and perform what he/she wants.
Maybe updating the linux symlink will be needed though.
However I forget the patches, and in that case it does not seem very practical !
However thanks for your time.

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

[Stroller]

On Fri, 1 August 2014, at 5:58 pm, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> ...
> I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I 
> want to keep around, from  removal, via depclean.
> 
> Other suggestions to keep the kernel sources around ?

Just copy the ebuild to your local portage tree and then `emerge =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.14.1` (or whatever version).

With some packages it's important to include some contents of /usr/portage/category/package-name/files but not for gentoo-sources.

There's no need to update your kernel more often than every few months.

Stroller.