From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B27613877A for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D06AFE094A; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96DB3E093A for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k48so2392695wev.13 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 01:25:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UkX7fx8h/NrC1zyeSsg+A3Csgai+rfxCPR5oKTzEKAI=; b=0d/es7GttwDQQ8zzqWPzRNuyV5iUjn1ZY5z2Vaifilydk+fzJC02oHNoamjtkNws6Z eePneOINI9+Sl321XDsxmb5gEm25NznlqhSb3kqDHz2i5b3wKlFviemm+yHtxSb6iCI0 iZ/1Elf3f8OunhuiyiBTlnIs8+88JnTGk2pmxaLxOpRvWptLCavvFcc8kp1/MR3nk9Tz UHJ4Td2hmbh+u8GOkZYMVJ2OG5QkMmINcuK8dQe9QtH6PVQ7K/7BQWscqEmfbJA/gols r2jt7CTJJguCYUO9Onip2rBuOwOijgiA1HNDE4A1yCoZOcRMAvgrn9qR2UwwX1MVIWwJ GQ7w== X-Received: by 10.194.123.105 with SMTP id lz9mr14562072wjb.122.1406795112283; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 01:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.40] ([41.85.145.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ez1sm18198026wib.15.2014.07.31.01.25.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 31 Jul 2014 01:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53D9FD34.5060603@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:24:20 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling References: <20140730160224.29830c66@digimed.co.uk> <53D93323.1060300@googlemail.com> <20140730200549.02099352@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <53D94C04.10204@gmail.com> <53D95636.5010401@googlemail.com> <53D95B6F.2020703@gmail.com> <20140730215928.499c51bb@digimed.co.uk> <53D98D3B.7060200@gmail.com> <53D9ACD4.2000000@googlemail.com> <20140731062806.GA27528@waltdnes.org> <53D9EEF9.1080609@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53D9EEF9.1080609@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 204c52e0-e98d-49a4-975a-262d792da1bd X-Archives-Hash: 03a080f7cc73041217a277c77d03a776 On 31/07/2014 09:23, Dale wrote: > Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 04:41:24AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote >> >>> I occasionally tried razorqt or enlightenment or twm... >>> and yeah, they load quickly. And then they are all useless for me. >> I run ICEWM with 9 work areas dedicated to specific "tasks" or forums. >> A desktop environment doesn't provide me that much extra functionality. >> I suppose some of my inertia is due to starting to use ICEWM and *BOX >> back when I had a Dell with 256 megabytes of RAM and an 8-megabyte ATI >> video card. That machine lasted for 7 years or so. My current one is >> over 6 years old. >> > > On a rig that has limited resources, you are doing what I would do as > well, outside the USE="-*" thing. :-D I would use Fluxbox or some > other very light GUI. I'd keep it simple so that when I click > something, I don't have to go get a drink while I am waiting. And in > some cases, have plenty of time to drink it as well. > > What a person uses has to be based on what it is being used on and what > the user expects. All about balance. There's a huge difference between recognizing a resource-constrained machine and acting appropriately on the one hand, and ranting about bloat on the other. One usually involves sensible thought, the other usually doesn't. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com