From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F1B1391DB for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30C60E0894; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EB75E085C for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id ho1so2761593wib.16 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:02:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=04wry6wL601kijY8i532TIm/+qzqF1ybkWs8uRgvrYg=; b=xF1owKAMLQF8awrwWsE2tSv71+cxkeWaz/ZOGRas/EZHHKozlnO6HkVTe7f7lFRQjt QGba53kQFwTUOUF8UTbKIfS+/FVOPGpSuTn4o8vXO9lF1PxTtn9LFzYUWCPc4AswyNP4 QaZfUTpZnSEOECfE4HCibuozA5YGOWNnt5FVMmnb+SL1fbK5kX3Jzme3cbIlB0Gc3KI9 VMlbs/IAfKw4QPzqqROrFjMGH7mLqjIJMnUGOANnjEKi2UDTcSIlsFYs2BefjHpTsLpg KT47aUrVJQuVZbOL0aCV/bTkJsjWb/Nd9zlPd8Jdk6NnnmF2SUGO4d6PBkvNpFF/oUf5 IzMw== X-Received: by 10.194.109.71 with SMTP id hq7mr8834510wjb.114.1406743332913; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (pD952DE61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [217.82.222.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ch5sm7167424wjb.18.2014.07.30.11.02.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53D93323.1060300@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:02:11 +0200 From: Volker Armin Hemmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling References: <20140729201652.GA14289@waltdnes.org> <20140730160224.29830c66@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20140730160224.29830c66@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ccf5a17a-b935-447d-bb4a-41bcabfe00a3 X-Archives-Hash: c34348d6332bc2c5ad06b303bf1b5151 Am 30.07.2014 17:02, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:07:30 +0000 (UTC), James wrote: > >> YOU have chosen a somewhat minimalist path with your desktop, wisely >> avoiding "bloat_ware_city" > Personally, I prefer USE="-hyperbole" :) > >> But, to avoid pain do keep some minimal >> collection of flags. Python is CRITICAL on gentoo, so ask before >> verging out on Python! > Bear in mind that USE flags control *optional* features and dependencies. > Setting USE="-python" will not prevent python being installed, nor will > it break portage, but it will "de-bloat" those packages that come with > optional python interfaces and bindings. and it might break packages in features in surprising ways. People who tell newbies that -* could be used at all, should be flogged. In a public place. With video. This 'de-bloat' crap - who came up with that? People who use it all the times seldomly realize that the 'small and unbloated' software they use is in a lot of cases neither small, nor not bloated.