From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787FB13877A for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BF81E0835; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (mail-wi0-f171.google.com [209.85.212.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61F43E07FC for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hi2so7186951wib.16 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 03:14:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VkuuM5aSKL4CE3fEd1+Lu6UktSit0N54fk958Qa5yY0=; b=o9AYnUWzOrkSChMpXontdwVqTbX/Pyj1CHyPVqk1nLvSGMBacqeHSljL7bzmIWWRA5 TnZDlKzKLdNZzNtM/rfcPEIabQUmgV1y5xDZBlHH6nLy8ubo/uzleOfTOaPAXGr8l/5r jXYlV5A1m+RTr3RMl9FD2wGx9QXa7sBjnr/IhA/GuapikzJvkCVDSiMz42st//KqxJcN 9rFZugVNZEXhw2xB8uiF1o9V7wvwiIzBG2QVfvS7kU2YtCNiOiSyQB1WlLQ90odomtwB Lk20NPaE0DeimjOIn+mhQjVl6z7SXV7MDZn069ywbOJM5lyDFE4P8uYsBllg5dvDoOpx /QCA== X-Received: by 10.180.14.162 with SMTP id q2mr5483780wic.29.1406715249215; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 03:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (pD952DE61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [217.82.222.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k19sm53705438wie.20.2014.07.30.03.14.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Jul 2014 03:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53D8C56E.4010305@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:14:06 +0200 From: Volker Armin Hemmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it. References: <53D3E7B8.5060908@googlemail.com> <53D4957A.50308@openmailbox.org> <20140729181812.GA25291@methusalix.lan> <53D8B78C.2080208@openmailbox.org> In-Reply-To: <53D8B78C.2080208@openmailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 6f304ad3-27be-44f5-b90d-363258ba858b X-Archives-Hash: 9dfa5be031d3acf02fb60e02a5f9e4bf Am 30.07.2014 11:14, schrieb Edward M: > On 07/29/14 11:18, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:00:26PM -0700, Edward MN wrote: >>> On 07/26/14 15:55, walt wrote: >>>> On 07/26/2014 10:39 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>>>> [894019.770058] [Hardware Error]: MC4 Error (node 0): DRAM ECC error >>>>> detected on the NB. >>>>> […] >>>>> and this, my children, is why I am using ECC ram. >>>>> […] >>>>> And this evening, with a thunderstorm outside I got that beauty >>>>> above... >>>> >>>> Is ECC memory a drop-in replacement for ordinary RAM, or does it need >>>> a special motherboard? >>>> >>> yeah, requires a motherboard that supports ECC ram. >> >> Big was my surprise to learn that our old Pentium 3 PC from 1999 has ECC >> support in its three RAM sockets. The problem today is the artificial >> paritioning of the market. >> >> It seems nigh impossible (at least in the Intel world, please correct me >> regarding AMD) to have ECC RAM in a normal Home PC these days, >> especially in >> an ITX form factor, as I am currently investigating. There are Xeons >> for the >> 1150 “consumer socket”, but ECC is only supported by server chipsets >> such as >> the C series. Those come either on ITX boards with abysmal I/O >> capabilities >> for home use or on high-power workstation ATX boards that cost a small >> fortune. *sigh* >> >> I would have liked the aspect of a system that tells me when >> something goes >> wrong, but there seems no such thing for my requirements. So I must help >> myself with file checksums when dealing with my archive disks. >> > > > Unfortunately, I think it would be difficult finding a home-user board > with ECC support. since, nowadays appears ECC is mostly for systems > where data corruption is unacceptable, such a bank,etc > pretty easy actually. When I looked for ECC support, ALL Asus boards supported it officially - and a whole bunch of Gigabyte boards according to their forums.