From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B745813877A for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46829E080B; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.openmailbox.org (mail2.openmailbox.org [212.129.8.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 220AEE07EC for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA2C2023D1 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:18:16 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=openmailbox.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type :in-reply-to:references:subject:subject:mime-version:user-agent :from:from:date:date:message-id:received; s=openmailbox; t= 1406711895; bh=evYUmCr/ViyqYmiNvkfTODe9pOx42JaFh0xNScY0Rco=; b=i TY5mCYY1Q107l4cCW2FZ+4EhKJBQYKF0N+ZasXC1fLvQS4d3eE5T5CKoPP70fE84 rZ/t0+pK5+Gvl6ByEE/TOyVGO7RAP+MQr3EPRR2yEezATQJVyMXEqzQmEEysPOWK OtOisk+2kG9IeRVNAR0xFq4PYaV3uvmFphEgAaTJag= X-Virus-Scanned: at openmailbox.org Received: from mail2.openmailbox.org ([212.129.8.132]) by localhost (mail.openmailbox.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id vVtQjG4fkC-A for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:18:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53D8B78C.2080208@openmailbox.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 02:14:52 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; DragonFly x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it. References: <53D3E7B8.5060908@googlemail.com> <53D4957A.50308@openmailbox.org> <20140729181812.GA25291@methusalix.lan> In-Reply-To: <20140729181812.GA25291@methusalix.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 6f4751ac-a016-4e71-a728-baf78bf94d5c X-Archives-Hash: 117cf6543482f59a43603a430efb60ce On 07/29/14 11:18, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:00:26PM -0700, Edward MN wrote: >> On 07/26/14 15:55, walt wrote: >>> On 07/26/2014 10:39 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>>> [894019.770058] [Hardware Error]: MC4 Error (node 0): DRAM ECC error >>>> detected on the NB. >>>> [=E2=80=A6] >>>> and this, my children, is why I am using ECC ram. >>>> [=E2=80=A6] >>>> And this evening, with a thunderstorm outside I got that beauty abov= e... >>> >>> Is ECC memory a drop-in replacement for ordinary RAM, or does it need >>> a special motherboard? >>> >> yeah, requires a motherboard that supports ECC ram. > > Big was my surprise to learn that our old Pentium 3 PC from 1999 has EC= C > support in its three RAM sockets. The problem today is the artificial > paritioning of the market. > > It seems nigh impossible (at least in the Intel world, please correct m= e > regarding AMD) to have ECC RAM in a normal Home PC these days, especial= ly in > an ITX form factor, as I am currently investigating. There are Xeons fo= r the > 1150 =E2=80=9Cconsumer socket=E2=80=9D, but ECC is only supported by se= rver chipsets such as > the C series. Those come either on ITX boards with abysmal I/O capabili= ties > for home use or on high-power workstation ATX boards that cost a small > fortune. *sigh* > > I would have liked the aspect of a system that tells me when something = goes > wrong, but there seems no such thing for my requirements. So I must hel= p > myself with file checksums when dealing with my archive disks. > Unfortunately, I think it would be difficult finding a home-user board with ECC support. since, nowadays appears ECC is mostly for systems where data corruption is unacceptable, such a bank,etc