From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AC41391DB for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 03:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A74A8E0D48; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 03:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f41.google.com (mail-yh0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D894E0D16 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 03:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f41.google.com with SMTP id b6so4523910yha.14 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:11:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MbNaBvfy/zxSALfP7IZM8xAv+Dz50dV64g9DS8v9kMg=; b=AthVIASbLkozFsX/15Q5VZsBnwSmBgQA7AFbon/e5dZIMvsqjNc6sIIKJ/pam/pslZ XylmjzdvDlwwhFPD+pLz8eytkGr3a75YKaRUJBrMc//dhTl+cdoh72EUdxwFzJdh+cox QhGRzH94ZqbEew84l0uO5z58RgNPHU93tAP5baViSJjoZNSKVVpk4qSPFsF41JPLsytv uMxZKsYjPstEz2ZMByBEFgPZ6dr3vaWnED5D5Xsv8MAzVkGgiYLew6ALngNxx6O+kdSx ZIxh/rj2K7IwGmRnv4sYhvbJWLiYD7ufkiWyKVvHEKLatE1qf1AGhVT2arLNEF+sFKDf E7sQ== X-Received: by 10.236.220.100 with SMTP id n94mr46483915yhp.77.1406517117495; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-122-210.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.122.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k29sm35695157yha.33.2014.07.27.20.11.56 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53D5BF7B.6080301@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 22:11:55 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!? References: <20140727101247.GA3817@solfire> <20140727112736.54eb3995@digimed.co.uk> <20140727104115.GB3817@solfire> <20140727195745.6a58e11d@digimed.co.uk> <53D550F7.2070200@gmail.com> <20140727222104.42119108@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20140727222104.42119108@digimed.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 86d7c666-294f-46a9-8ca6-73564c1f7220 X-Archives-Hash: adb9195665fe750ae34781b93001c822 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:20:23 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> Question. Does that mean that the heads can't move past that point? If >> yes, does that mean the OP can't get any data that is further out than >> that point? I'm asking hoping I will learn something. I have taken >> drives apart so I know how the arm moves the heads across the platter. >> If I get what you are saying, it's like the heads get to a certain >> point, about 10%, and then stop. > I don't think so, as I've seen this sort of thing on a drive but still > been able to access ~all my data. It seems that the SMART tests are a > little stupid in this respect and give up when they decide a drive is > broken, as opposed to failing. > > So, it isn't likely a mechanical failure but *maybe* some sort of firmware/software/or other type of failure? Interesting. The reason I was asking is because it seems the OP is using the drive, even booting from it I think, which makes me think it is still able to access the data but yet the SMART test can't get to the same area. It was a bit confusing since it wasn't "logical". One type of access is working while another isn't. Odd. I realize that short of some techy person taking the drive apart, we won't likely really know why it failed the test but just curious as to what options were there as to the failure. Well, run into something interesting everyday. I hope the OP can get his data off there before this gets worse. I guess if nothing else, SMART showed that something isn't right, is likely failing and needs attention. If SMART is correct. ;-) Dale :-) :-)