From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB591391DB for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E624CE0E25; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from postler.lichtfels.com (postler.lichtfels.com [78.46.92.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF8E4E0DC0 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postler.lichtfels.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84525123CA for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:44:20 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=xunil.at; s=mailout; t=1406465060; bh=MNQ7AZ6xt5WpBierM7+G0bE3NUFSwg6jRkDUTtGxRYU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=GAk9whbaOyEbOTmGpvfDWBEp/KGp6KwUNMgPSAF4bamu1Ps059a2um0sGkCYDGqCB TCPsyFo9BV2UL/etkuXcmvLm+h9qgDH3a3Tr79Dsov3m93t8MScX1UpysG1KmgVh4u ZuJxcJTi/Tw0CFo9ccPKyz1ujQcxr78thwQsF2No= Received: from postler.lichtfels.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (postler.lichtfels.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 14037-07 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:44:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:15c0:65ff:8742:c03c:9395:4182:94c7] (unknown [IPv6:2001:15c0:65ff:8742:c03c:9395:4182:94c7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by postler.lichtfels.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48773123C8 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:44:17 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=xunil.at; s=mailout; t=1406465058; bh=MNQ7AZ6xt5WpBierM7+G0bE3NUFSwg6jRkDUTtGxRYU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=NHdKwoGTvmykUhuupR1fdVdDsdn9VFxryuVhmCIaxUBzFw+4VMi8RkBtCsmsS6wl8 bdg3Bk91jbV2jeimGk8MKGnKHoD1V/HntCPMl08iEkPfbv25JUSSIAJ+JqwV/b42TV 3/v1scZoBDjMLj9K81NHiUARVboLWOK8xZJyZs9s= Message-ID: <53D4F421.1080601@xunil.at> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:44:17 +0200 From: "Stefan G. Weichinger" Organization: oops! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] wayland References: <53CAF59C.3000008@xunil.at> <53CD7778.2060803@xunil.at> <572500c0-884f-42b2-8e03-c8006b364e26@lists.xtsubasa.org> In-Reply-To: <572500c0-884f-42b2-8e03-c8006b364e26@lists.xtsubasa.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2c X-Archives-Salt: 389d2794-62a4-4b2c-9ada-39a67abebd5d X-Archives-Hash: 062836f76467baa7dd3cf42766e9d964 Am 25.07.2014 06:32, schrieb Pavel Volkov: > On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:40:36 AM MSK, James wrote: >> Bloatware like gnome and KDE will be the last to get QT5, Wayland and a >> myriad of new, super_fast, secure desktop toys, imho. > > Well, KDE is already on Qt 5. > Strictly speaking, there's no "KDE" or "KDE SC" anymore. > There are 3 separate projects: > - KDE Frameworks 5 (released already) > - KDE Plasma 5 (released too) > - KDE Applications 5 (this or is not yet released) > > Qt 4 apps will still be able to work with Frameworks 5 and Plasma 5. > > As for Wayland, we should not worry about KDE or GNOME not supporting it > but rather about nvidia or amd video driver. Nouveau is still slow and I > doubt it'll show decent perfomance in near future. > thanks all. I still don't understand if Gnome 3.12 should work now with current wayland/weston or not. At least I get this when testing: Jul 27 14:38:28 goto gnome-session[22840]: gnome-session[22840]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'gnome-shell-wayland' Recompiling gnome-session doesn't help and that file(?) isn't anywhere. I only get a blinking cursor when I log into gdm with "gnome on wayland" S