From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FCB13877A for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA71BE0B62; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:42:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-f173.google.com (mail-yk0-f173.google.com [209.85.160.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7F60E0B52 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 142so3919496ykq.4 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 01:42:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=v04DEA1XN3Wkc0i41dLtVVTq0rX1k3HyDZVeA0D5bus=; b=A9IXZgGWcKaNYWJyhSDjmfSfjiGDml5lVLmgDU/FXqFCeGME79FeM50wzbTrEXYfy1 wGAPEZ6AJ7PcKQyi8MaOSoJ8apHx+UDSkI7Z7a0tYx424/8BG10e+nizO3n98lysEnzG LIMcaNLBi/yk+CdAGCKaHFGlPGdcxcjQJM3YFGEWHpS8MzN3gqXzhGWyWWuF20MHnT/a +IenOwcKp+Gi9dC+udEsej1GiJ+rc8ut1TDG3Uk/CjcVRo4yf8Cj+a2BAMFowlb1NiAv suLdLh/8CQdFScstYoAJsg2Iq6O86XKnYvxYKjBbRaFSSzR6wb3lucWknkIyB/cUJqmV pnsw== X-Received: by 10.236.4.34 with SMTP id 22mr48198840yhi.41.1404031360878; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 01:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-95-206.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.95.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k66sm14065261yhg.39.2014.06.29.01.42.39 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Jun 2014 01:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53AFD17F.9020903@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 03:42:39 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <53AF99B6.7070809@gmail.com> <201406290839.16900.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201406290839.16900.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040102090403050106050802" X-Archives-Salt: 849b6cea-0db6-45b6-92e9-7269b80a0301 X-Archives-Hash: ae5edd8ad60c029f2a6a415483a51a63 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040102090403050106050802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote: >> >> >> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm >> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test >> every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of >> testing? I realize no one knows with 100% certainty but I would like to >> backup my data say every couple weeks just in case. If the drive works, >> fine. If it fails, well, it wouldn't be the first time and it won't be >> a primary drive so no big loss. >> >> I got to find me a good drive for backups tho. I'm waiting on a good >> sale of a brand other than Seagate tho. That should help keep two >> drives from failing at the same time. Well, a little anyway. I think >> it is called Dale's Law now. ;-) > > I'm not sure what it is called, but it seems infectious! I have a drive (in a > laptop) which I recently zeroed out with dd and fsck -c for good measure, > before I installed gentoo on it. Yesterday, I tried a long test, but it won't > complete. It reached "10% remaining" and it stayed there for a few hours. I > will repeat the test to see if it gets through this time, but I am worried > that it's on its way out. > > Oh well, I may install an SSD if it fails. > That's seems to be normal at least for me. Mine has certain percentages that it just seems to sit at for a good while. It eventually passes the test tho. Just leave it overnight and check it the next morning or something. I know laptops are different but got to do what you got to do. Maybe pluging it into a desktop or something would help. Dale :-) :-) --------------040102090403050106050802 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote:
>>
>>
>> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full.  I'm
>> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so.  If I do that and run the test
>> every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of
>> testing?  I realize no one knows with 100% certainty but I would like to
>> backup my data say every couple weeks just in case.  If the drive works,
>> fine.  If it fails, well, it wouldn't be the first time and it won't be
>> a primary drive so no big loss.
>>
>> I got to find me a good drive for backups tho.  I'm waiting on a good
>> sale of a brand other than Seagate tho.  That should help keep two
>> drives from failing at the same time.  Well, a little anyway.  I think
>> it is called Dale's Law now.  ;-)
>
> I'm not sure what it is called, but it seems infectious!  I have a drive (in a
> laptop) which I recently zeroed out with dd and fsck -c for good measure,
> before I installed gentoo on it.  Yesterday, I tried a long test, but it won't
> complete.  It reached "10% remaining" and it stayed there for a few hours.  I
> will repeat the test to see if it gets through this time, but I am worried
> that it's on its way out.
>
> Oh well, I may install an SSD if it fails.
>

That's seems to be normal at least for me.  Mine has certain percentages that it just seems to sit at for a good while.  It eventually passes the test tho.  Just leave it overnight and check it the next morning or something.  I know laptops are different but got to do what you got to do.  Maybe pluging it into a desktop or something would help.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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