From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3D013877A for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 04:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E320E0B01; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 04:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-f171.google.com (mail-yk0-f171.google.com [209.85.160.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E1B0E0AE1 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 04:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 200so3872092ykr.2 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 21:44:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gSF5ka7d5qNI9KyrMzILShxgG7Rx7cAa10RVHiK5NKM=; b=baqEO1hKKBL4sJP58uMrN/CkSN5JbHri4xz+HhFKvnnnqL/V7PGvoOg9jLuhhqWWgO Ul2g0BYz7N63cjK+vKMN1mo/kZ2iggINpOTU/GabiQC2wYMQeBFPrjtgQadlt3gulxNX vtAnGB0oV5oJPGctte5pEb6GU9fdwe0pS3xQ3hVK1SQ2A4y0+X8m0tbAvPj5qGF+HxZD P1ErGs1vGwEjLJVy15QhU5FpymgddG8Urt0dttx/JwGfE1++H+ZIgxbIGiLeZpQa63+n CrLGSg2I6NtP55R3pQnRe54/uZYHwjDoqVzsmmgrGAmMCiPTGJFuC1nrTg9eoegnhCN/ MoZg== X-Received: by 10.236.41.234 with SMTP id h70mr44898663yhb.61.1404017080235; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 21:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-95-206.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.95.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d46sm13190973yha.10.2014.06.28.21.44.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 28 Jun 2014 21:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53AF99B6.7070809@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 23:44:38 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <53AF879A.1040904@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 400aae26-234d-4dd9-8c58-20e4e1a00e2e X-Archives-Hash: 9a76285f0336082a389c250b17f7a0e0 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Dale wrote: >> So, thoughts? Did it mark that part as bad and all is well or is this >> going to be trouble down the line? Should I just fill the thing up with >> data and test the stuffin out of it to make sure? >> > That is pretty typical. You wrote to every sector on the drive. You > don't need to be able to read a sector to overwrite it, so doing this > cleared out the drive's list of offline uncorrectable sectors. If > you're fortunate it relocated those sectors in which case the drive is > only using good sectors now. It can't relocate a sector unless it > either gets a successful read, or it is overwritten, and you overwrote > them. > > Either way the extended offline test passing isn't unusual. Either it > relocated the sectors in which case the drive is "completely good" or > the data written to the bad sectors was readable when the test was > run, which doesn't guarantee that it will still be readable a > day/week/month/year from now. > > Unfortunately I don't think there is any way to find out what the > firmware is doing, or to predict the likelihood of another failure. > The only thing we can say for sure that like all hard drives, it WILL > fail sometime. > > Rich > > What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of testing? I realize no one knows with 100% certainty but I would like to backup my data say every couple weeks just in case. If the drive works, fine. If it fails, well, it wouldn't be the first time and it won't be a primary drive so no big loss. I got to find me a good drive for backups tho. I'm waiting on a good sale of a brand other than Seagate tho. That should help keep two drives from failing at the same time. Well, a little anyway. I think it is called Dale's Law now. ;-) Dale :-) :-)