From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A821513877A for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88627E0CB2; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-f173.google.com (mail-yk0-f173.google.com [209.85.160.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D482E0A93 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 142so2184993ykq.18 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:31:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4NhRDOm6CFkaR1S4thH+H7To2hSBMa9IGdEBgC5cQU8=; b=NM1P6vedRZnE8rXX7h2r1sj+MYkVsMH8xNUp0VlSuDkDuS5DyxyyTgH7qSeY+2xUpH 2zpdJLs20j6f0u1pmA3016p1SbfNnpCo9bjf21eo9s5DxCIT08GmpUNY/jFQo4Z7VTf1 tsGdiqc/M3Pl2Y7vP6ikbn+l+VNAsCCwF4TiNq2GuLSScgWj0Pd0UghWZvCX3dY8F7xD LjouKZIgVzsStqyZ6X8uG5iRnyDbB+cToOcRfgsG+I4zbcagkRFtEvajdAPia43ZRn28 v9Y94G3y+ytJ0q7N+4qnKWYyiTo8MKIPN74jvntCPoNOnL/woJtjZbZgTMFk/LAkXlzd C6kw== X-Received: by 10.236.4.233 with SMTP id 69mr21307318yhj.115.1403803896774; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-120-204.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.120.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j21sm10861562yhj.29.2014.06.26.10.31.36 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53AC58F7.6030100@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 12:31:35 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: power requirement (WAS: smartctrl drive error @60%) References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <49620f42-d9c3-43b1-9f01-1250e52eb950@email.android.com> <53AA587F.8090300@gmail.com> <53AA7D11.6070909@thegeezer.net> <53AA7EF5.2000903@gmail.com> <53AAA791.4050506@thegeezer.net> <53AACB8D.6010300@gmail.com> <20140626161935.GA3061@asp.tu-ilmenau.de> In-Reply-To: <20140626161935.GA3061@asp.tu-ilmenau.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 04a350ae-34d2-4bd9-967b-52f87c182c40 X-Archives-Hash: 461a90106ba5f7603bd836b3a7872b8c Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 08:15:57AM -0500, Dale wrote: >> About the only time I shutdown is when the power fails. My puter only >> pulls about 150 watts so I just leave it running 24/7. > Gosh, power must be really cheap in your corner of the world (or is it just > stupidly expensive over here?) I wouldn’t call 150 W “only”, especially for > a 24/7 device. Or is that the maximum under load? > > Right now I have a Pentium 4 3 GHz heater sitting under the desk -- I got it > last year for free from a company that had written it off. It idles at 95 W > and reaches around 130 (or was it 150) under load. When I sit at the desk, I > notice the warm air rising from underneath because over time it dries up my > eyes. ^^ > Add to that an old 17″ CCFL monitor (25 W) and consider my use scheme, > that’s almost 1 kWh per day (don’t know exact prices, but 1 kWh costs around > 25-30¢ right now). > > I am so looking forward to the new machine I’m going to build in very few > months. Haswell idles at under 20 W. 8-) > (I know: today’s power requirement to manufacture chips is also ridonculous, > too, but considering all other benefits and my usual consumption behavior > over the years, I have a clean concience *g*) Well, that power does include monitor, modem, router and such. I figure those don't pull very much. I think the most my newer monitor will pull is 40 watts. I was sort of comparing to my old puter that pulled about 500 watts with a old CRT monitor. It ran 24/7 as well. My TV runs pretty much 24/7 too. If I am compiling something that really has the CPU and such running pretty hard, it will go to about 180 watts. That's the most I have ever seen at least. Those readings come from the display on my UPS. I think our power here is around 7¢ a KW. If ours ever gets to 30¢, well, let's just say that someone is going to be ducking. Folks here won't tolerate that. It could get really ugly. Dale :-) :-)