From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D36913877A for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EE29E0A43; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f52.google.com (mail-yh0-f52.google.com [209.85.213.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04407E08D3 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a41so1998111yho.39 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 04:20:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uMCaWEu1PZLTwl6mZkuFMgTw7J4H6AHrgF+LCmKI0sA=; b=p/V4TOu55/0qmA3MRptPhukbO0aBr1YBL0os5wbYThpfqZ96g2t/dkTKPnSs4q5dd7 1ygV0FgUJ7ecFiUSVs2ubkObrOzHcZ9Hg1LO/PpYwqyfqdhnYkyIQlJbIKnpo662PRKE ZhtzcMo6P2r5DTnydbLhHFXGHifOLzHjV0by2vHNqfMOntUJ0KZfByYr9lsdWDz9xaSg W9B1Jf2A4nZvkqMJ0IDRnpn5MPTRlzJB9UAvSDiml9B5ni2J7dPKWK9GziD2zCwQxe3y lwPJoSmedg4anx4biQrGRlnljt5mI/HQMTJUTdApJJ5rACm2hxDdyYzgNbG1Q1E46hfV a8CA== X-Received: by 10.236.78.33 with SMTP id f21mr20671867yhe.113.1403781647270; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 04:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-120-204.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.120.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o22sm9584910yha.22.2014.06.26.04.20.46 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Jun 2014 04:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53AC020D.4030502@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 06:20:45 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <49620f42-d9c3-43b1-9f01-1250e52eb950@email.android.com> <53AA587F.8090300@gmail.com> <53AA7D11.6070909@thegeezer.net> <53AA7EF5.2000903@gmail.com> <53AAFEEE.7020508@googlemail.com> <53AB03C3.9000601@googlemail.com> <53AB7465.1080100@gmail.com> <53AB997B.8080304@gmail.com> <53ABFB85.3080205@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53ABFB85.3080205@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8acd9c81-a777-46af-879e-89239f288d31 X-Archives-Hash: 155ce90fef80673d653c8be9d132415e Alan McKinnon wrote: > My experiences aren't worth much in this case, what I had to deal with > was data center setups where - the power has never gone off for 6 > years - the drives never spin down and just keep on turning year after > year - the servers were the nice big ones Dell makes with awesome > cooling - the data center feels like a fridge and the ambient temp > never varies more than 1 deg - the server power supplies are seriously > high grade, the 5V and 12V out of them are solid and do not fluctuate > at all Add all this up and it's an almost perfect environment for > drives to last a long time. You don't have that, not even close. I > have only 1 little bit of anecdotal data: my nas at home has 4 x 3T WD > Green drives in it, going on almost 2 years now. My kids hammer the > blazes out of that thing, and ZFS scrubs keep it real busy when the > kids don't. And those drives just keep on turning and turning and > turning, I didn't do anything special. I put it down to statistics - > no-one makes bad drives (or cars) these days and I haven't pulled the > unlucky card yet. I dunno, go figure Well, it does make good points tho. I keep my room here pretty cool. It's not as cool as your data center but I have a window A/C and my own heater. I don't mind it being a little cool in the winter but don't like it warm in the summer either. The cooler the better. I also have the Cooler Master HAF-932 case with those really nice large fans. The hard drives are right in front of the front intake fan. I have a power supply that is really to big for what I have running. I can't recall the brand and wattage just that it doesn't pull near as much power as I thought it would. It pulls less than half what my older and much slower puter pulled. Also, I rarely shut this thing down. I did the other night to unplug/re-plug all the cables but other than that, it is usually because I have lost power from the mains. So, keep them cool, good clean power and leave them running when ya can. Sounds like a plan. ;-) Dale :-) :-)