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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 23:57:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53ABA853.50600@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_nSkWf1XyJdaKiE2VYLZZWVD4kM150G_3r2zBW65rk91w@mail.gmail.com>

Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>> I don't have anything on the cloud to backup too.  That would likely be
>> a good idea but I can't afford anything pricey, which is why I hadn't
>> bought a backup drive before now either.  Plus, something I'd prefer to
>> keep under my thumb.  Heck, some things here are encrypted, bank info
>> and such.  Also, while I have DSL, it ain't real speedy.  Backing up
>> that much data over my connection could take a while, like days, maybe
>> even a week or more.
>
> I put my backups on Amazon S3 reduced-redundancy - it is a few cents
> per GB per month.  I think I have something like 20-30GB backed up.
> Oh, if you need to actually retrieve it that will cost you 10 cents
> per GB, but frankly if my house burned down that would be the least of
> my concerns.
>
> I'd only use the cloud to back up critical data.  If you want to back
> up your mythtv and mp3 collection, then you're going to be uploading a
> LOT of data and paying quite a bit to store it.  If you want to be
> storing TB of data offsite there are better ways of doing it.

Outside my camera pics, I don't think I have anything that critical.  I
backed them up on 7 DVDs yesterday.  I been doing that for many years. 
Two sets just to be sure.  I also rotate the DVDs after a while too.  I
burn sysrescue ISOs to it or something. 


>
> The advantage of something like S3 is that it is always there, which
> means you stick a duplicity script in your crontab and just
> periodically check up on it.  You don't have to remember to do your
> backups.  It just isn't practical to use it for more than a few dozen
> GB depending on your incremental strategy.
>
> I also have a 50Mbps outbound connection, which doesn't hurt.

Downstream Rate  1536 (Kbits/Sec)
Upstream Rate  384 (Kbits/Sec)


While it ain't super fast, it beats dial-up and I remember those days
very well.  Still pretty slow to do backups over tho.  :/


>
> Your next best option is to find a friend with similar needs and give
> each other a place to upload your encrypted backups to.  That will
> just cost you drive space, but if you're both planning on backing up
> 1TB of data it will still cost you the one-time drive purchase.
>
> If you want a quick cloud-capable backup solution, I'd look at
> duplicity.  I just wish it had options for Google Drive (it supposedly
> does, but as far as I can tell it doesn't work, at least not with a
> two factor application password).
>
> Rich
>
>

I'm just going to try and buy another 3TB drive as soon as I can.  I may
even make it into a removable thingy.  Then I can make backups and just
put it in a outbuilding.  By the way, my outbuilding is pretty far from
the house.  A house fire wouldn't hurt it any.  I got so much junk in
there, a thief would shake his head and leave empty handed.  May even
cry at the thought of it. 

Working up a plan and hoping to work the plan. 

While at it.  Latest test results.  It finished a bit ago. 

root@fireball / # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdc
smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-gentoo] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining 
LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       60%    
16394         2905482560
# 2  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       60%    
16389         2905482560

It is still rolling over.  It should throw up its feet any day now.  :-( 

Dale

:-)  :-) 


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-26  4:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-24 23:09 [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Dale
2014-06-25  4:20 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-25  5:05   ` Dale
2014-06-25  7:26     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-25  7:43       ` Dale
2014-06-25  7:41     ` thegeezer
2014-06-25  7:49       ` Dale
2014-06-25 10:42         ` thegeezer
2014-06-25 13:15           ` Dale
2014-06-25 14:03             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 15:54               ` Dale
2014-06-25 16:09                 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 16:44                   ` Mick
2014-06-25 17:29                     ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 22:16                       ` Dale
2014-06-25 22:32                         ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26  2:07                           ` Dale
2014-06-26  2:15                             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26  4:57                               ` Dale [this message]
2014-06-29 15:17                                 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2014-07-01  8:30                                   ` Dale
2014-07-01  8:46                                     ` Helmut Jarausch
2014-07-01  8:58                                       ` Dale
2014-07-01  9:06                                         ` Helmut Jarausch
2014-07-01  9:11                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-01  9:21                                             ` Dale
2014-07-01 10:19                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-01 12:36                                                 ` Dale
2014-07-01  8:49                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-25 22:50                         ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26  2:15                           ` Dale
2014-06-26  5:56                             ` Mick
2014-06-26  5:59                               ` Mick
2014-06-26 14:14                                 ` Dale
2014-06-26 15:08                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26 15:31                                     ` Dale
2014-06-27 13:22                                     ` Mick
2014-06-27 20:54                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-27 21:26                                         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2014-06-27 21:41                                           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-28  7:48                                         ` [gentoo-user] " Mick
2014-06-28  8:37                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-28 11:54                                           ` Dale
2014-06-26  7:22                               ` [gentoo-user] " Alberto Luaces
2014-06-26 10:11                             ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26 11:03                               ` Dale
2014-06-26 11:24                                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26 11:40                                   ` Dale
2014-06-26  0:38                         ` Bill Kenworthy
2014-06-26  2:31                           ` Dale
2014-06-26 17:39                         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2014-06-28 11:55                           ` Dale
2014-06-28 12:40                             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-28 13:05                               ` Dale
2014-06-28 13:08                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-28 13:58                                   ` Dale
2014-06-28 14:15                                     ` Dale
2014-06-28 14:50                                       ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-28 16:00                                         ` Mick
2014-06-28 17:30                                           ` Dale
2014-06-25 16:38                 ` [gentoo-user] " Rich Freeman
2014-06-26  2:13                   ` Dale
2014-06-25 18:44               ` Douglas J Hunley
2014-06-25 18:50                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26 16:05               ` Dale
2014-06-26  0:00             ` David Haller
2014-06-26  2:40               ` Dale
2014-06-26  6:05                 ` David Haller
2014-06-26 16:19             ` [gentoo-user] OT: power requirement (WAS: smartctrl drive error @60%) Frank Steinmetzger
2014-06-26 17:05               ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-26 23:01                 ` Bill Kenworthy
2014-06-26 17:31               ` Dale
2014-06-25 16:55         ` [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-06-25 17:06           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 17:15             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-06-25 17:44               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 21:19                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-26  3:45                   ` Dale
2014-06-26  1:16                 ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-26  3:54                   ` Dale
2014-06-26 10:05                     ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26 10:54                       ` Dale
2014-06-26 10:52                     ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-26 11:20                       ` Dale
2014-06-26 12:57                         ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-26 13:58                           ` Dale
2014-06-26 17:14                           ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-26 17:21                     ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-25 21:11           ` Dale
2014-06-25  9:46     ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 10:05       ` Dale
2014-06-25 10:55         ` thegeezer
2014-06-25 11:02           ` Helmut Jarausch
2014-06-25 13:21             ` covici
2014-06-25 12:33           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 14:23             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 14:29               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 16:00                 ` Dale
2014-06-25 15:30             ` covici
2014-06-25 16:34               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 17:58               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-25 12:30         ` Dale
2014-06-25  7:35 ` Marc Joliet
2014-06-29  3:27 ` Dale
2014-06-29  3:34   ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-29  4:44     ` Dale
2014-06-29  7:38       ` Mick
2014-06-29  8:42         ` Dale
2014-06-29  9:40           ` Mick
2014-06-29 12:05       ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-29 12:30         ` Dale
2014-07-01  5:52         ` Mick
2014-07-01  6:09           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-01  7:21             ` Dale
2014-07-01 10:48             ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-01 10:55           ` Alan McKinnon

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