From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C3E13877A for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 03:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45BCEE0BF4; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 03:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f44.google.com (mail-yh0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21748E0BBA for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 03:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f10so1788603yha.3 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:45:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=15Ly/UUwqTlrjxow+Px5HzvG3MOOctalZscX4PN+ql0=; b=TB/VbSfYKszSq9sahTUh43dTeeJKgqiKZ4Qr4Rr01pFM7cpXmD6R/aGDSyEPpFGEgt ulE4wlA4rJN/l4QYdF9fYBLqfhGy6v2qWE4Ehi2e9UY0g3PW62tYHu1sdCD1Bjdb+9ih XYNUJ9nVPgrzmdzeC8oupB/6RzsdGy+wYl72C7V/DP+fXeZrzD1bVfW3t+Tal4Z9x3LX igOiAa7CupZF+obRNj7RDeaLv6XmZDJTjvgQvyv42JEXnUmVagnXMBL3hilNmtEwkOMZ d4XSkgrxj8aExsHNO3oiRVefQYL/uh5Ec6GuOHG/NpIT2whBWIVdjt+GkwUugdaLLZuV V0uw== X-Received: by 10.236.156.170 with SMTP id m30mr17617781yhk.60.1403754354084; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-120-204.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.120.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 68sm8228160yhq.26.2014.06.25.20.45.52 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53AB9770.3000209@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 22:45:52 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <53AB03C3.9000601@googlemail.com> <2583056.YYLVGMjOln@andromeda> In-Reply-To: <2583056.YYLVGMjOln@andromeda> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 0ec4fe0d-a852-420e-ad82-0f341e6cdefb X-Archives-Hash: a1a018745eef94d8b16051c9347cda3e J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 01:44:23 PM Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >>>> ANY hard drive can fail the day >>>> >>>> after you buy it, a month after you buy it, and so on, though >>>> obviously the probability of a particular drive failing at any point >>>> in time may vary by what you pay for it. >>> or if it was meant to be used the way you use it. >> Like I said, I'm certainly interested in any actual data that supports >> that drives sold to run 24x7 last any longer than desktop drives when >> run 24x7. > Not hard data, but while still using desktop drives, I had a drive failure on > average once or twice a year. Now with enterprise 24x7 drives, the failure > rate has dropped to 1 in the past 3 years. > > That is, for both, using proper UPS equipment. > Additionally, I noticed a definite speed increase after switching to > enterprise disks. > > -- > Joost > > I have one WD black which I think is a more expensive drive. I have to say, when I run hdparm -tT on it, it is faster than the other "regular" drives that claim the same specs, SATA etc etc. They do cost more tho. Some a good bit more unless you can catch a good sale. While I was looking for this new drive, I looked into a 4TB drive. I am still trying to get my jaw back up off the floor. Holy sheep. They are still fairly proud of some of those puppies. I did notice they have a 5 and 6TB one now. O_O Double holy sheep. I think I lost my jaw now. Good bye nose, hello China. :-( Well, one of these days we will be talking about getting 6TB drives for $50 and how much we want a 20TB drive, to put all our worthless junk on. lol Oh, we will still complain about how they die to soon too. We may even have CPUs that run at light speed with many dozens of cores, but still to dang slow. ;-) Pass the rice please. Dale :-) :-)