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[65.0.120.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g68sm7111734yhf.52.2014.06.25.15.16.17 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53AB4A31.3030104@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:16:17 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <53AAF0CB.4060902@gmail.com> <20140625170952.3f3250c8@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <201406251745.06064.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20140625182940.5e6e4adf@hactar.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20140625182940.5e6e4adf@hactar.digimed.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 125a76e4-70ce-4e9a-a7df-44d2a1ad50f4 X-Archives-Hash: dd3d78a19fb49dc522503c923be9b537 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:44:48 +0100, Mick wrote: > >>> Install a simple forwarding MTA like ssmtp to have all mails from cron >>> and friends sent to your ISP mailbox. >> ... and when you find out please tell us: >> >> 1) What syntax is appropriate to allow the use of mail account passwds >> which contain not just alphanumeric characters but also symbols like >> [~@#$] ? >> >> 2) How can you force it to NOT use RC4 cipher when it logs into Google >> Mail to relay messages, but the more secure ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 >> that the server proposes ? > It's debatable whether either of those scenarios fall within the > definition of "simple". If something that simple won't do what you want, > and there are several to try: ssmtp, esmtp, nullmailer etc, then you may > need to use the likes of Postfix - but for Dale's situation, a lightweight > forwarder is better than not being able to monitor his system. > > I have to say, I dread setting up a mail server about as bad as I dread going to the Doctor. It's just something I really don't want to add to my system unless I have to. It's sort of like the init thingy. I don't want to add something else that will eventually break and I'll have to fix. The mail system won't keep me from booting but it is just one more thing to keep a eye on and make sure it is working. So, making sure the mail system is working will likely take up the same amount of time that checking the drive manually every month or so will take. The only good part is, and this is the point you are making so well, even tho I had other things going on, it would have been testing my drive and spit out a error to get my attention. Going back, the error has been there for a while. It would have been nice to know this before now. Hindsight again. ;-) What I really need to do, set up a RAID or some other backup method so that even if this happens again, I don't risk losing anything. Then again, that will take time as well. Also takes money. >From df -h: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/home-home 2.7T 1.5T 1.3T 56% /home Most of that is recorded TV shows, movies etc. I also have some pics I took with my camera that can't be replaced. Those I backup to DVDs pretty regular. I use kbackup to tarball them and then burn them to DVDs. It works. One set is outside the home in case of fire. The biggest thing is some of those shows would be hard to get again plus the effort to get them as well. Let's hope it lasts until at least tomorrow. I bet it takes a while to copy all that tho. O_O Thanks. Dale :-) :-)