From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF3913877A for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A2D1E0A49; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BAB2E08BE for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id x13so2381014wgg.15 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:15:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GV2H1QG9gkexF3KVrDpL6dvPmDn5o0dmtI9CHJ3ZjKs=; b=rc/CN7qE+yuQBCFtHzL+AWh6TeVwCpCpOU1VFUm5MuIQI6r7vd5SV9qBh+wQTjWXTn x3QtqMQdrydZVTKntrkV9326pbcBFqF2Gdxk6rXOJ/O1vIq7dkAfEvJza2vG1Nn1Accs LfxRZ9WSLRcGzJ/u1ChHEkIMJ/X8NjUdCYiJYbr+FN2dmYHlMQZ80liKGIiE0XsgzyGO XUqD0GJenDUsEglHirVxq80As13cR1TqChzkX0xdzsteOfRp+0ATAnHvQdLWLpNrHNiX sh8C/h+2hN9wem5zwbu1yb742+0oMm5MqyyRAes8/7k+OWsOUJYtg9L8rSjpCKDOVrm4 a+kA== X-Received: by 10.194.174.35 with SMTP id bp3mr3415186wjc.33.1403716549479; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (pD952C368.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [217.82.195.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hb8sm47408656wib.12.2014.06.25.10.15.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53AB03C3.9000601@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:15:47 +0200 From: Volker Armin Hemmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <49620f42-d9c3-43b1-9f01-1250e52eb950@email.android.com> <53AA587F.8090300@gmail.com> <53AA7D11.6070909@thegeezer.net> <53AA7EF5.2000903@gmail.com> <53AAFEEE.7020508@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 40fb4e64-3b84-4351-bdef-1302fdd51036 X-Archives-Hash: 5f572d371bcb9599d0f3f41bdc6f5dde Am 25.06.2014 19:06, schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: >> so without looking that drive up - you are using a desktop part for >> non-stop setup? > Honestly, I think it makes far more sense to build a fault-tolerant > setup than to try to avoid faults by spending more on the parts. I've > only run desktop hard drives on my 24x7 RAID. If they die I replace > them under warranty so you are ripping of other customers? > - I've yet to have one die outside of warranty, > and I'm usually upgrading for size by that timeframe anyway, and I can > use the old drives for storage. > > By all means get better-grade components, but I wouldn't use that as > an excuse for not having backups of some kind. there is no excuse for not having backups. > ALL hard drives WILL > fail, it is just a matter of when. indeed. > ANY hard drive can fail the day > after you buy it, a month after you buy it, and so on, though > obviously the probability of a particular drive failing at any point > in time may vary by what you pay for it. or if it was meant to be used the way you use it.