From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E69A13877A for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A44FE0996; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 524D7E08B1 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hi2so5783795wib.17 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 04:06:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NaGOF52/aayplTN+VIwEXjGia1R7ejaupV4ceVNIU/A=; b=hCK6pteGvlyB3zFqgw2w53Plw/9NzgltUHiwl4a7Tc/MW5SyaUKrIfTMsa4w+duFDT tAzyZya3fJqMMPqzEGl3vFEy6HkT376DPvj1l89Z9xRs/H+i9oktO9FTPkXIpOYTKYQF MFxYvbvDDHufzMJ7IgDimHhDEJEoDr4NxUCYHzXuT90yUt6tPWUfpE1jCh2jITOF1TsL whQqNTQwavC9yVuvyt2S5MHQN+uI77eQLXzomqclslpe+lhoNMmXZmGn2G9vFEDzpOep 1EURDnzOUFD55X+6/rchHfwgIiW9Y9PKTbJNn1xlSuia5QhYRPJFlW2sbzpHMEg+RQpX 3++Q== X-Received: by 10.180.91.81 with SMTP id cc17mr33416309wib.17.1403607971806; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 04:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.44] ([41.85.145.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m3sm848459wik.7.2014.06.24.04.06.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Jun 2014 04:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53A95B6E.9010304@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:05:18 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] sys-power/upower with systemd References: <87vbrrrvim.fsf@nyu.edu> <20140624100124.700559aa@marcec> <1403597309.4987.0@numa-i> In-Reply-To: <1403597309.4987.0@numa-i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 582d5328-acd2-44e7-999b-f33be1350815 X-Archives-Hash: 53c78f9b690e8877a38b11579bf528b9 On 24/06/2014 10:08, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 06/24/2014 10:01:24 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: >> Am Mon, 23 Jun 2014 20:39:13 -0400 >> schrieb gottlieb@nyu.edu: >> >> > I think I had first misinterpreted the news msg, but want to be sure I >> > do understand it correctly now. >> > >> > The message ends with >> > >> > All non-systemd users are recommended to choose between: >> > # emerge --oneshot --noreplace 'sys-power/upower-pm-utils' >> > or >> > # emerge --oneshot --noreplace '>=sys-power/upower-0.99.0' >> > However, all systemd users are recommended to stay with >> sys-power/upower. >> > >> > I first read "stay with sys-power/upower" to mean systemd users should >> > NOT do any of the two options for non-systemd users and let portage "do >> > its thing". However, portage want to replace upower with >> > upower-pm-utils, which I am pretty sure is not intended for systemd >> > users. >> > >> > Is the proper reading of the news message, that the systemd users >> should >> > use the second option available for non-systemd users? Specifically am >> > I to execute >> > >> > # emerge --oneshot --noreplace '>=sys-power/upower-0.99.0' >> > >> > ? >> >> Um, personally, I think the message is extremely clear: non-systemd users >> should choose between the first two options, and systemd users should >> just >> stick with plain upower, regardless of version (although there is only >> one >> ATM, the older one is masked now). >> > > Hi, please tell me - what is a systemd user? A systemd user is someone who has systemd installed and *is using it* How can that be unclear? > > I have systemd AND openrc installed here and I still don't use systemd > as my > init system. Am I a systemd user? > I ask because I cannot installed some packages, some require upower-0.99.0 > others fail with it. > > Thanks, > Helmut > > > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com