From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA4E13877A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1755DE0AB1; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a68.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058E7E0A8E for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a68.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a68.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26ACC40110116 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:32:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=libertytrek.org; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= libertytrek.org; bh=fZhm7ok6JcFr6RY5O+oaAy3Qifg=; b=S3GhFvK+ASHz YtR5acpXGNVpKLokYKrFzQxnpns/Yc+m5CJ1IoC6VBWYtPWEboDUwqJnTnCsXLZ4 lFUy1RAaZVu6O3Il7Kv70Hn8AzoXFSNMKiV16eNvyZgvOzm1/QBfGYO9Q7THGBNj oR/F4QQiJ4YIZXUsH7NBeygkduHUW18= Received: from [192.168.1.62] (unknown [159.63.145.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tanstaafl@libertytrek.org) by homiemail-a68.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0391E40110106 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539C5CD6.9000006@libertytrek.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 10:31:50 -0400 From: Tanstaafl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev upgrade 208 > 212-r1, openrc USE flag changed to disabled? References: <539C4E86.8000704@libertytrek.org> <539C5929.5060602@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539C5929.5060602@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 19cac1d2-49a2-4397-8ee2-46d0d6fbffea X-Archives-Hash: dde56bbb43673f5452571e1e1ff9f21f Thanks Alan, but... On 6/14/2014 10:16 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 14/06/2014 15:30, Tanstaafl wrote: >> This clearly shows the -openrc USE flag being applied. > > You read it wrong. The USE flag is not being applied it's being removed > (the minus "-"), Well, I did include the hyphen(-), so I meant in the negative (removed) sense. > and the reason it is being removed is that it doesn't exist for the > new ebuild. That's what the parenthesis means. Ah... ok, I'd forgotten about the significance of the ()... But... >> Googling didn't reveal an answer... > > It's in the emerge man page. If not there, is one of the man pages from > portage Ok, that explains the meaning of the (), but doesn't explain this *change* satisfactorily (to a non-coder at least)... *Why* was it removed/no longer needed? And why was it needed previously? Since udev (and openrc vs systemd) is such a huge topic lately, I think this should be clearly explained, possibly even warranting a news item. I still, even after your answer, don't really understand why and whether or not this is 'normal', or going to bite me later big time. Thanks again, I'd like to do this upgrade this weekend, but I don't upgrade system critical packages without fully understanding changes like this.