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From: Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 07:39:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <539056E5.2020302@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <538FB399.70403@gentoo.org>

On 06/04/2014 08:02 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> 
> On 05/06/14 02:15, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
>> On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
>>> On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
>>>> On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
>>>>> Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
>>>>>> On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
>>>>>>> No, "sys-fs/udev" is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
>>>>>>> emerge above.  That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
>>>>>>>  Unfortunately, the xfce stuff is not, so even if the overlay currency
>>>>>>> was an issue, I'll still be showing some dependencies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try re-emerging on un-emerging the offending packages, like
>>>>>> xfce4-session and xfce4-power-manager,
>>>>>> it has helped some people, to refresh the .ebuild copy that is installed
>>>>>> with the .ebuild copy from
>>>>>> Portage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Samuli
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks - that fixed it for me:
>>>>>
>>>>> # emerge -C xfce-base/xfce4-session xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager
>>>>> xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload-plugin
>>>>> # emerge -uND xfce-base/xfce4-meta xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager
>>>>> xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload-plugin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, this doesn't work for me.  So let me re-cap:  I have
>>>>
>>>> 4. masked virtual/udev-208-r2; that has not worked.
>>> First, remove that mask. Masking it will certainly cause more blockers,
>>> than solve them.
>>>
>>>> [ebuild  N    ~] mate-extra/mate-power-manager-1.6.3::mate-overlay
>>>> USE="applet policykit -gnome-keyring -man {-test}" 0 kB
>>>> [ebuild  N    ~] mate-base/mate-session-manager-1.6.1-r1::mate-overlay
>>>> USE="ipv6 -debug -systemd" 0 kB
>>>>
>>> see "::mate-overlay", it's presumably broken or outdated. stop using the
>>> overlay and use MATE from Portage instead.
>>> or you can mask the packages from overlay, the syntax is like:
>>>
>>> /etc/portage/package.mask
>>>
>>> mate-extra/mate-power-manager::mate-overlay
>>> mate-base/mate-session-manager::mate-overlay
>>>
>>> - Samuli
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks everybody for your help.  I've made the further suggested
>> changes, but I remain with the three hard blocks.
>>
>> I've now spent about 7 hours over the last two days on this issue (about
>> 2x the fresh install time), when all I wanted to do was a routine
>> update.  I've reworked a large part of my system, adding a new
>> package.mask file and populating it with six packages.
>>
>> I suppose its now time for an uninstall.  Kind of disappointing; we are
>> told Gentoo is about choices, and in fact that's true.  I made the
>> choice to use a pure openRC system.  The last 7 hours of free time,
>> though, was spent trying, and ultimately failing, to correct a problem
>> not chosen, not wanted, and not invited.
>>
>> The sine qua non is unarguably systemd.  Even though my choice was to
>> not deploy it, apparently it takes a significant time commitment and/or
>> developer-level knowledge to choose to not use it.  Quite the inelegant
>> end to my once-trusty OS.
>>
> 
> Gentoo doesn't have write access to ::mate-overlay, it's completely
> unofficial
> Gentoo developers are just as much users as you are for ::mate-overlay
> 
> Enough said
> 
> - Samuli
> 
> 
Sorry, but this isn't just a MATE overlay problem.  Once I made your
suggested changes, the MATE "mask change" requests disappeared.  What I
did get was XFCE mask requirements:

[snip]

The following mask changes are necessary to proceed:
 (see "package.unmask" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10
# required by @selected
# required by @world (argument)
# /etc/portage/package.mask:
# problems with systemd, upower shift to upower.pm.utils
=xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.1-r1
# required by virtual/udev-208-r2
# required by sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3
# required by xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.1-r1[udev]
# required by xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10
# required by @selected
# required by @world (argument)
# /etc/portage/package.mask:
# problems with systemd, upower shift to upower.pm.utils
=sys-apps/systemd-212-r5
# required by sys-apps/systemd-212-r5[-vanilla]
# required by sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3
# required by xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.1-r1[udev]
# required by xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10
# required by @selected
# required by @world (argument)
# /etc/portage/package.mask:
# problems with systemd, upower shift to upower.pm.utils
=sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4

[snip]

I had already <emerge - C>'d those two XFCE applications because, early
in this process an <equery depends upower> had shown them to be
dependent upon "upower" even after emerging "upower-pm-utils."  I have
no confidence at this point that my particular problem is reasonably
solvable, as I have been caught in this circle for three days now.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-05 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-03 14:14 [gentoo-user] Systemd upower Silvio Siefke
2014-06-03 14:29 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 14:52   ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-03 15:10     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 15:14       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-03 15:39         ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04  8:33           ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04  1:27         ` [gentoo-user] " Greg Woodbury
2014-06-03 16:48       ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-03 17:08         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:14           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:01             ` Marc Stürmer
2014-06-03 21:40               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:59                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 22:06                   ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-03 23:04                     ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:13                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 23:24                       ` Jim Burwell
2014-06-04  0:58                         ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  1:08                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  1:48                             ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  1:57                               ` Michael Cook
2014-06-04  2:17                                 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  4:05                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 11:22                                     ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:15                                       ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:49                                         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 17:11                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 19:17                                         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 23:15                                           ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 23:25                                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05  0:07                                               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  0:22                                                 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05  0:46                                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  0:51                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 23:27                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-05  9:47                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05  0:02                                             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 11:39                                               ` Dutch Ingraham [this message]
2014-06-05 12:00                                                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:17                                                   ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:18                                                     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 14:11                                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05  9:40                                             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 12:11                                               ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:31                                                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 14:15                                                   ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:40                                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 22:28                                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:42                                                     ` Mick
2014-06-04 12:24                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-04  2:07                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  3:13                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04  0:14                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-03 22:59               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-03 23:07                 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:15                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  1:37           ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04  2:05             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 10:28               ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04 15:11                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-05  6:34                   ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-05 10:36                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:11                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-05 11:23                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:21           ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-04 12:57             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:58             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 13:08               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 18:28                 ` Marc Joliet
2014-06-04 18:45                   ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04 13:47             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-04 13:47               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-08 17:26               ` Apologies - WAS: " Tanstaafl
2014-06-08 20:15                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 15:51             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:06         ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-04 22:14           ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04 22:27             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  5:23               ` Mick
2014-06-05  7:25                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  9:03                   ` Mick
2014-06-05  9:08                     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 10:15                       ` Mick
2014-06-05 10:47                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:26                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:58                     ` Mick
2014-06-05 23:15                       ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-06  5:46                         ` Mick
2014-06-06 11:18                           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-06 19:13                             ` Mick
2014-06-06 19:31                               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-03 15:11   ` [gentoo-user] " Silvio Siefke
2014-06-09 15:34     ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-09 16:18       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-06-09 18:43         ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-10 20:01           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-09 16:21       ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-06-03 16:28   ` Alan McKinnon

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