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From: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:26:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <539053D1.3000406@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140605124742.54d77f0e@gentoo.org>


On 05/06/14 13:47, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100
> Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a
>> gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they
>> want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate?
> For them to have support for sleep and hibernate, someone needs to
> develop / maintain it in order to adapt to kernel API changes; as long
> as the only one doing this is systemd, you'll work towards only it
> being supported there in the future.

Correct, and to name an example, pm-utils is still using the old
wireless stack and
'wireless-utils' instead of 'iw'
As in, pm-utils is using kernel options that are marked as DEPRECATED in the
menuconfig, and DEPRECATED means they are going away at some point
So it won't be long the package is broken for every machine that has
wireless
card
I'm sure there are multiple other examples available, but this one pops
up to
mind immediately



  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-05 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-03 14:14 [gentoo-user] Systemd upower Silvio Siefke
2014-06-03 14:29 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 14:52   ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-03 15:10     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 15:14       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-03 15:39         ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04  8:33           ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04  1:27         ` [gentoo-user] " Greg Woodbury
2014-06-03 16:48       ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-03 17:08         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:14           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:01             ` Marc Stürmer
2014-06-03 21:40               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:59                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 22:06                   ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-03 23:04                     ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:13                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 23:24                       ` Jim Burwell
2014-06-04  0:58                         ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  1:08                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  1:48                             ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  1:57                               ` Michael Cook
2014-06-04  2:17                                 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  4:05                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 11:22                                     ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:15                                       ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:49                                         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 17:11                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 19:17                                         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 23:15                                           ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 23:25                                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05  0:07                                               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  0:22                                                 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05  0:46                                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  0:51                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 23:27                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-05  9:47                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05  0:02                                             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 11:39                                               ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:00                                                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:17                                                   ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:18                                                     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 14:11                                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05  9:40                                             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 12:11                                               ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:31                                                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 14:15                                                   ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:40                                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 22:28                                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:42                                                     ` Mick
2014-06-04 12:24                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-04  2:07                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  3:13                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04  0:14                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-03 22:59               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-03 23:07                 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:15                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  1:37           ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04  2:05             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 10:28               ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04 15:11                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-05  6:34                   ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-05 10:36                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:11                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-05 11:23                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:21           ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-04 12:57             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:58             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 13:08               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 18:28                 ` Marc Joliet
2014-06-04 18:45                   ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04 13:47             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-04 13:47               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-08 17:26               ` Apologies - WAS: " Tanstaafl
2014-06-08 20:15                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 15:51             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:06         ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-04 22:14           ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04 22:27             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  5:23               ` Mick
2014-06-05  7:25                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  9:03                   ` Mick
2014-06-05  9:08                     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 10:15                       ` Mick
2014-06-05 10:47                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:26                   ` Samuli Suominen [this message]
2014-06-05 12:58                     ` Mick
2014-06-05 23:15                       ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-06  5:46                         ` Mick
2014-06-06 11:18                           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-06 19:13                             ` Mick
2014-06-06 19:31                               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-03 15:11   ` [gentoo-user] " Silvio Siefke
2014-06-09 15:34     ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-09 16:18       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-06-09 18:43         ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-10 20:01           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-09 16:21       ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-06-03 16:28   ` Alan McKinnon

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