From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A8F1381FA for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 23:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 350D3E090E; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 23:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB5EFE08DA for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 23:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.68] ([172.15.184.248]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmxus001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MexJf-1XBvjH07HV-00OUXu for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:13:46 +0200 Message-ID: <538FA88A.2000608@gmx.us> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400 From: Dutch Ingraham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower References: <20140603161406.0400709b5f38540475ac4c1f@web.de> <6653474.aQqAYpAeto@wstn> <538DFC41.3080602@libertytrek.org> <538E2CBA.4000709@gmail.com> <538E37A0.1030105@marc-stuermer.de> <538E40E6.8060107@gmail.com> <538E591B.4020708@jsbc.cc> <538E6F1A.2070209@gmx.us> <538E7AEF.9060006@gmx.us> <538E7D21.6090907@mackal.net> <538E81B1.90101@gmx.us> <538E9AF1.3090709@gentoo.org> <538F016E.4090606@admin-box.com> <538F5358.7020607@gmx.us> <538F70C2.1060608@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <538F70C2.1060608@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:VSjMZN5hClDDSJ1hHZXxdyDur+3XH84DAYr0ItKGGJWhff6Q0xN Irj1Fjy4cqeb0h4LsQrraJWKZq2fNeQW/5lXvUux6168qvF8kBs3hSRo4IBtSqvuZroOLd7 u6/otRrU77zKNNzZlN/xRvv71ehKsiUmI5Y88xg1Ny+TAb7NBqBowQOt4s0pZXS6zVH2Q5i NF1kjxOFCNOky9pCYPJ+A== X-Archives-Salt: 017e5883-aadd-4840-bd11-54efa7865823 X-Archives-Hash: 6dd3a40a7005aa500fd37d1165bfbbf1 On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote: >> On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote: >>> Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen: >>>> On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote: >>>>> No, "sys-fs/udev" is not masked, but an update is indicated in the >>>>> emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay. >>>>> Unfortunately, the xfce stuff is not, so even if the overlay currency >>>>> was an issue, I'll still be showing some dependencies. >>>>> >>>> Try re-emerging on un-emerging the offending packages, like >>>> xfce4-session and xfce4-power-manager, >>>> it has helped some people, to refresh the .ebuild copy that is installed >>>> with the .ebuild copy from >>>> Portage >>>> >>>> - Samuli >>>> >>> Thanks - that fixed it for me: >>> >>> # emerge -C xfce-base/xfce4-session xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager >>> xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload-plugin >>> # emerge -uND xfce-base/xfce4-meta xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager >>> xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload-plugin >>> >>> >>> Greetings >>> Daniel >>> >> Unfortunately, this doesn't work for me. So let me re-cap: I have >> >> 4. masked virtual/udev-208-r2; that has not worked. > > First, remove that mask. Masking it will certainly cause more blockers, > than solve them. > >> [ebuild N ~] mate-extra/mate-power-manager-1.6.3::mate-overlay >> USE="applet policykit -gnome-keyring -man {-test}" 0 kB >> [ebuild N ~] mate-base/mate-session-manager-1.6.1-r1::mate-overlay >> USE="ipv6 -debug -systemd" 0 kB >> > > see "::mate-overlay", it's presumably broken or outdated. stop using the > overlay and use MATE from Portage instead. > or you can mask the packages from overlay, the syntax is like: > > /etc/portage/package.mask > > mate-extra/mate-power-manager::mate-overlay > mate-base/mate-session-manager::mate-overlay > > - Samuli > > Thanks everybody for your help. I've made the further suggested changes, but I remain with the three hard blocks. I've now spent about 7 hours over the last two days on this issue (about 2x the fresh install time), when all I wanted to do was a routine update. I've reworked a large part of my system, adding a new package.mask file and populating it with six packages. I suppose its now time for an uninstall. Kind of disappointing; we are told Gentoo is about choices, and in fact that's true. I made the choice to use a pure openRC system. The last 7 hours of free time, though, was spent trying, and ultimately failing, to correct a problem not chosen, not wanted, and not invited. The sine qua non is unarguably systemd. Even though my choice was to not deploy it, apparently it takes a significant time commitment and/or developer-level knowledge to choose to not use it. Quite the inelegant end to my once-trusty OS.