From: Greg Woodbury <redwolfe@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 21:37:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <538E783F.3040208@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADPrc811w=9_MdJ45g9nd2yfYP+jC1HymHg=hG0g+OTvCtTTHg@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/03/2014 01:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> Who is "forcing" anything? pm-utils has been unmaintained FOR FIVE
> YEARS. Any project that decides to stop using it is making just the
> right decision; UPower just did the correct thing. And systemd had
> *nothing* to do with it, except for providing a better, more reliable
> alternative.
>
> That's what you and many others don't seem to understand: systemd is a
> *BETTER* implementation for basically *ALL* the hodgepodge of
> "solutions" that we had before in our plumbing layer.
<snip>
>
> There is no conspiracy here (although for *SURE* there are
> scare-mongering conspiracy theorists); there is (sic) only developers
> working in the best possible implementation for our plumbing layer,
> and other developers realizing that, in Linux at least, supporting
> anything besides systemd is a freakin' waste of time and resources.
>
> Again; you don't like it? Then do something about it instead of
> posting in *-user lists.
You are certainly keen in pressing your *opinions* here there and
everywhere.
Sure, systemd is a more elegant solution than the patchworks that have
been applied several times to the original SysV concept.
However, the implementors and advocates of systemd have stepped on the
concerns and violated certain basic freedoms of many folks in their zeal
to see their vision become predominate.
--
G.Wolfe Woodbury
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-04 1:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-03 14:14 [gentoo-user] Systemd upower Silvio Siefke
2014-06-03 14:29 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 14:52 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-03 15:10 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 15:14 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-03 15:39 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04 8:33 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04 1:27 ` [gentoo-user] " Greg Woodbury
2014-06-03 16:48 ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-03 17:08 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:01 ` Marc Stürmer
2014-06-03 21:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:59 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 22:06 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-03 23:04 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:13 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 23:24 ` Jim Burwell
2014-06-04 0:58 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 1:08 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 1:48 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 1:57 ` Michael Cook
2014-06-04 2:17 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 4:05 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 11:22 ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:15 ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:49 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 17:11 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 19:17 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 23:15 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 23:25 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05 0:07 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 0:22 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05 0:46 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 0:51 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 23:27 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-05 9:47 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 0:02 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 11:39 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:00 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:17 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:18 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 14:11 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 9:40 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 12:11 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:31 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 14:15 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:40 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 22:28 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:42 ` Mick
2014-06-04 12:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-04 2:07 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 3:13 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 0:14 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-03 22:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-03 23:07 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:15 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 1:37 ` Greg Woodbury [this message]
2014-06-04 2:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 10:28 ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04 15:11 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-05 6:34 ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-05 10:36 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:11 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-05 11:23 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:21 ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-04 12:57 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:58 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 13:08 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 18:28 ` Marc Joliet
2014-06-04 18:45 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04 13:47 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-04 13:47 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-08 17:26 ` Apologies - WAS: " Tanstaafl
2014-06-08 20:15 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 15:51 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-04 22:14 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04 22:27 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 5:23 ` Mick
2014-06-05 7:25 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 9:03 ` Mick
2014-06-05 9:08 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 10:15 ` Mick
2014-06-05 10:47 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:26 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:58 ` Mick
2014-06-05 23:15 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-06 5:46 ` Mick
2014-06-06 11:18 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-06 19:13 ` Mick
2014-06-06 19:31 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-03 15:11 ` [gentoo-user] " Silvio Siefke
2014-06-09 15:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-09 16:18 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-06-09 18:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-10 20:01 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-09 16:21 ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-06-03 16:28 ` Alan McKinnon
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