From: Greg Woodbury <redwolfe@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 21:27:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <538E75F6.3040207@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <538DE670.1070906@gentoo.org>
On 06/03/2014 11:14 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
>
> On 03/06/14 18:10, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>> Maybe a news item explaining the switch of upower would help those who haven't
>>> blundered into this yet.
>> Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
>> infrastructure migrates towards systemd. Perhaps a news item everytime
>> it happens is unrealistic?
>>
>> I would expect Gentoo users to search for viable solutions by
>> themselves, or asking for ways to solve it in the proper channels
>> (like Silvio did).
>
> Yes, thank you. That's exactly how I've seen the situation, but am I
> expecting
> too much from our users?
>
> (I think I'll be forced to write up some minimal news item just to shut up
> the loud minority who can't be bothered to do anything themselfs, like even
> read package ChangeLogs if they stumble upon something manual.)
>
If someone is going to change the basic rules and expectations of a
system in radical ways it is *not* unreasonable to expect that change to
be explained in an easy-to-find way (and not buried in a changelog.)
--
G.Wolfe Woodbury
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-04 1:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-03 14:14 [gentoo-user] Systemd upower Silvio Siefke
2014-06-03 14:29 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 14:52 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-03 15:10 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 15:14 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-03 15:39 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04 8:33 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04 1:27 ` Greg Woodbury [this message]
2014-06-03 16:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Tanstaafl
2014-06-03 17:08 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:01 ` Marc Stürmer
2014-06-03 21:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:59 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 22:06 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-03 23:04 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:13 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 23:24 ` Jim Burwell
2014-06-04 0:58 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 1:08 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 1:48 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 1:57 ` Michael Cook
2014-06-04 2:17 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 4:05 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 11:22 ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:15 ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:49 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 17:11 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 19:17 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 23:15 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 23:25 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05 0:07 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 0:22 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05 0:46 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 0:51 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 23:27 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-05 9:47 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 0:02 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 11:39 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:00 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:17 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:18 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 14:11 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 9:40 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 12:11 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:31 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 14:15 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:40 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 22:28 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:42 ` Mick
2014-06-04 12:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-04 2:07 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 3:13 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 0:14 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-03 22:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-03 23:07 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:15 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 1:37 ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04 2:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 10:28 ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04 15:11 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-05 6:34 ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-05 10:36 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:11 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-05 11:23 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:21 ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-04 12:57 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:58 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 13:08 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 18:28 ` Marc Joliet
2014-06-04 18:45 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04 13:47 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-04 13:47 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-08 17:26 ` Apologies - WAS: " Tanstaafl
2014-06-08 20:15 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 15:51 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-04 22:14 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04 22:27 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 5:23 ` Mick
2014-06-05 7:25 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 9:03 ` Mick
2014-06-05 9:08 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 10:15 ` Mick
2014-06-05 10:47 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:26 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:58 ` Mick
2014-06-05 23:15 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-06 5:46 ` Mick
2014-06-06 11:18 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-06 19:13 ` Mick
2014-06-06 19:31 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-03 15:11 ` [gentoo-user] " Silvio Siefke
2014-06-09 15:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-09 16:18 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-06-09 18:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-10 20:01 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-09 16:21 ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-06-03 16:28 ` Alan McKinnon
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