From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E67F1381FA for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 23:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06A6FE0B1F; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 23:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f178.google.com (mail-we0-f178.google.com [74.125.82.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80FEEE0B0C for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 23:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id u56so7633861wes.9 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:07:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=I+9f47xmnlyh2ucAl0eusBX0saLLpJ25X6d1VsuAh0A=; b=T9fNL+ozwihWZITK/YJbJVgmGGtWGm5fL+2jrTt2PYS+NFkzlwVctu6aTDTKSR+DXP GGVAvEdYESOmQFpc5fzSDDcNSuGz95MpE9q3abFCkvjQ1429WltSnwa2HySIX1pPbl6+ i6scenlSwcxJn2Wqeej8gtyPnGL9DNJhOKLVVDloLphA/SBypT0BAo/QAtZd0aBxZtcZ 8QZd2XYGfN3Jk2cAPLe3PHVbU7UHu9C1cBYf1fncmuorEWY8uWK2seXeRN2N/WbxJZ/S vw/xv3/eD+4MsNgzDTMRYmipNmXtHlH0Ss4IzYK03K+geBUEDxAb9aroysEWOkMwZxqS A8ug== X-Received: by 10.194.58.79 with SMTP id o15mr65642482wjq.62.1401836871239; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-215-51-239.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.51.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ey3sm6325164wib.18.2014.06.03.16.07.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <538E5519.7070205@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 01:07:05 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower References: <20140603161406.0400709b5f38540475ac4c1f@web.de> <6653474.aQqAYpAeto@wstn> <538DFC41.3080602@libertytrek.org> <538E2CBA.4000709@gmail.com> <538E37A0.1030105@marc-stuermer.de> <20140603235919.54ba9f53@hactar.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20140603235919.54ba9f53@hactar.digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: e9e27f15-b3ee-43f7-8097-f229df9e7941 X-Archives-Hash: 8d60fe286034015c08eedce802d1a5e7 On 04/06/2014 00:59, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 23:01:20 +0200, Marc Stürmer wrote: > >> Even Linus Torvalds himself ranted about the attitude of systemd's >> developers at the beginning of May this year. > > Linus rants about everything and everyone, usually at least twice, once > for and once against. It proves nothing beyond Linus is still Linus. > > He *did* rant about Gnome not giving him choices about middle clicking on the window frame and rejecting his patch to do that, so he switched to KDE. Then he ranted about KDE giving the users too much choice with weird config dialogues and not getting their shit together to fix actual bugs, so he switched to Gnome. I eagerly anticipate Linus' switch to E17. Oops sorry, make that E19. So Linus is still Linus? Yep, that's how I see it too. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com