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From: "Marc Stürmer" <mail@marc-stuermer.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 23:01:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <538E37A0.1030105@marc-stuermer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <538E2CBA.4000709@gmail.com>

Am 03.06.2014 22:14, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> This whole systemd thing looks awfully like the switch from a hosts file
> to DNS so many years ago.

Not really. What many people bothers about systemd is that it is getting 
more and more

a) a hard dependancy for software projects, e.g. like GNOME, although 
there's no such thing like systemd e.g. on FreeBSD, (MATE instead tries 
to be init system agnostic), making it harder to port

and

b) that systemd seems to be on a track to reinvent the wheel or so more 
and more.

They are really working on their own DHCP server and client at the 
moment, also their own NTP client. Some people coined the term 
Lennartware for it, because it's from Lennart Poettering, like also 
pulseaudio and avahi.

Some people are already joking that it wants to become the next Emacs.

Even Linus Torvalds himself ranted about the attitude of systemd's 
developers at the beginning of May this year.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-03 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-03 14:14 [gentoo-user] Systemd upower Silvio Siefke
2014-06-03 14:29 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 14:52   ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-03 15:10     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 15:14       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-03 15:39         ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04  8:33           ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04  1:27         ` [gentoo-user] " Greg Woodbury
2014-06-03 16:48       ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-03 17:08         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:14           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:01             ` Marc Stürmer [this message]
2014-06-03 21:40               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:59                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 22:06                   ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-03 23:04                     ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:13                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 23:24                       ` Jim Burwell
2014-06-04  0:58                         ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  1:08                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  1:48                             ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  1:57                               ` Michael Cook
2014-06-04  2:17                                 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  4:05                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 11:22                                     ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:15                                       ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:49                                         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 17:11                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 19:17                                         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 23:15                                           ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 23:25                                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05  0:07                                               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  0:22                                                 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05  0:46                                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  0:51                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 23:27                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-05  9:47                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05  0:02                                             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 11:39                                               ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:00                                                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:17                                                   ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:18                                                     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 14:11                                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05  9:40                                             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 12:11                                               ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:31                                                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 14:15                                                   ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:40                                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 22:28                                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:42                                                     ` Mick
2014-06-04 12:24                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-04  2:07                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  3:13                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04  0:14                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-03 22:59               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-03 23:07                 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:15                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  1:37           ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04  2:05             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 10:28               ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04 15:11                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-05  6:34                   ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-05 10:36                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:11                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-05 11:23                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:21           ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-04 12:57             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:58             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 13:08               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 18:28                 ` Marc Joliet
2014-06-04 18:45                   ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04 13:47             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-04 13:47               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-08 17:26               ` Apologies - WAS: " Tanstaafl
2014-06-08 20:15                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 15:51             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:06         ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-04 22:14           ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04 22:27             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  5:23               ` Mick
2014-06-05  7:25                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  9:03                   ` Mick
2014-06-05  9:08                     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 10:15                       ` Mick
2014-06-05 10:47                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:26                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:58                     ` Mick
2014-06-05 23:15                       ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-06  5:46                         ` Mick
2014-06-06 11:18                           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-06 19:13                             ` Mick
2014-06-06 19:31                               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-03 15:11   ` [gentoo-user] " Silvio Siefke
2014-06-09 15:34     ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-09 16:18       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-06-09 18:43         ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-10 20:01           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-09 16:21       ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-06-03 16:28   ` Alan McKinnon

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