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[196.215.51.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l5sm45129844wja.12.2014.06.03.09.28.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <538DF79B.2040604@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 18:28:11 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower References: <20140603161406.0400709b5f38540475ac4c1f@web.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 44e54baa-23c1-4d49-9a92-52a58bdede8f X-Archives-Hash: 3209539f836e22448ef6b6170b98f07d On 03/06/2014 16:29, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Silvio Siefke wrote: >> Hello, >> >> mean this i must install now systemd? What can do when i not want systemd. >> The system what i have is good, i want not change to systemd. >> >> [ebuild U ~] sys-devel/gettext-0.19 [0.18.3.2] USE="acl cxx ncurses nls openmp -cvs -doc -emacs -git -java -static-libs" 16,221 kB >> [ebuild R ] dev-libs/glib-2.38.2-r1:2 USE="(mime%*) -debug (-fam) (-selinux) -static-libs -systemtap {-test} -utils -xattr" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 (-python2_6)" 0 kB >> [ebuild N ] sys-apps/systemd-208-r3:0/1 USE="acl filecaps firmware-loader gudev introspection kmod pam policykit python tcpd -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt -http -lzma -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python3_2 -python3_3" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_3 -python3_2" 2,335 kB >> [ebuild N ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2 51 kB >> [ebuild N ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3 USE="introspection -doc -ios" 0 kB >> [blocks B ] sys-fs/udev ("sys-fs/udev" is blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r3) >> [blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/udev-212-r1) >> [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking sys-fs/udev-212-r1) >> > > If I understood correctly, you need to: > > emerge -C sys-power/upower > emerge -1v sys-power/upower-pm-utils > > and then update world as usual. > > The changes in upower does not make systemd mandatory, but you need to > switch from upower (which now has systemd as a hard dependency) to > upower-pm-utils (which depends on the unmaintined pm-utils). > > Regards. > That is correct. There is a vocal debate going on in -dev right now about this and a proposed news item is in the works. here's the current proposed item which might change but at least explains what is going on: Do note that emerging upower-pm-utils (what you should do is you want to keep things the way they were) needs upower to be unmerged first. That part isn't mentioned in the news item, but portage lets you know real quick anyway. i.e. upower-pm-utils replaces current upower to restore old upower feature set ========== UPower discontinued hibernate and suspend support in favor of systemd. Because of this, we have created a compability package at sys-power/upower-pm-utils which will give you the old UPower with sys-power/pm-utils support back. Some desktops have integrated the sys-power/pm-utils support directly to their code, like Xfce, and as a result, they work also with the new UPower as expected. All non-systemd users are recommended to choose between: # emerge --noreplace 'sys-power/upower-pm-utils' or # emerge --noreplace '>=sys-power/upower-0.99.0' However, all systemd users are recommended to stay with sys-power/upower. =========== -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com