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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 18:28:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <538DF79B.2040604@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADPrc81XVdc+HghF1o=Ub-UZTfRTSU3X1zg4iJ5yKuqGuSQFtw@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/06/2014 16:29, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Silvio Siefke <siefke_listen@web.de> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> mean this i must install now systemd? What can do when i not want systemd.
>> The system what i have is good, i want not change to systemd.
>>
>> [ebuild     U ~] sys-devel/gettext-0.19 [0.18.3.2] USE="acl cxx ncurses nls openmp -cvs -doc -emacs -git -java -static-libs" 16,221 kB
>> [ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/glib-2.38.2-r1:2  USE="(mime%*) -debug (-fam) (-selinux) -static-libs -systemtap {-test} -utils -xattr" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 (-python2_6)" 0 kB
>> [ebuild  N     ] sys-apps/systemd-208-r3:0/1  USE="acl filecaps firmware-loader gudev introspection kmod pam policykit python tcpd -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt -http -lzma -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python3_2 -python3_3" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_3 -python3_2" 2,335 kB
>> [ebuild  N     ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2  51 kB
>> [ebuild  N     ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3  USE="introspection -doc -ios" 0 kB
>> [blocks B      ] sys-fs/udev ("sys-fs/udev" is blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r3)
>> [blocks B      ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/udev-212-r1)
>> [blocks B      ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking sys-fs/udev-212-r1)
>>
> 
> If I understood correctly, you need to:
> 
> emerge -C sys-power/upower
> emerge -1v sys-power/upower-pm-utils
> 
> and then update world as usual.
> 
> The changes in upower does not make systemd mandatory, but you need to
> switch from upower (which now has systemd as a hard dependency) to
> upower-pm-utils (which depends on the unmaintined pm-utils).
> 
> Regards.
> 



That is correct. There is a vocal debate going on in -dev right now
about this and a proposed news item is in the works. here's the current
proposed item which might change but at least explains what is going on:

Do note that emerging upower-pm-utils (what you should do is you want to
keep things the way they were) needs upower to be unmerged first. That
part isn't mentioned in the news item, but portage lets you know real
quick anyway. i.e. upower-pm-utils replaces current upower to restore
old upower feature set



==========
 UPower discontinued hibernate and suspend support in favor of systemd.
Because of this, we have created a compability package at
sys-power/upower-pm-utils which will give you the old UPower with
sys-power/pm-utils support back.
Some desktops have integrated the sys-power/pm-utils support directly
to their code, like Xfce, and as a result, they work also with the new
UPower as expected.

All non-systemd users are recommended to choose between:

# emerge --noreplace 'sys-power/upower-pm-utils'

or

# emerge --noreplace '>=sys-power/upower-0.99.0'

However, all systemd users are recommended to stay with sys-power/upower.
===========

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com



      parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-03 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-03 14:14 [gentoo-user] Systemd upower Silvio Siefke
2014-06-03 14:29 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 14:52   ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-03 15:10     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 15:14       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-03 15:39         ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04  8:33           ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04  1:27         ` [gentoo-user] " Greg Woodbury
2014-06-03 16:48       ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-03 17:08         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:14           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:01             ` Marc Stürmer
2014-06-03 21:40               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:59                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 22:06                   ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-03 23:04                     ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:13                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 23:24                       ` Jim Burwell
2014-06-04  0:58                         ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  1:08                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  1:48                             ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  1:57                               ` Michael Cook
2014-06-04  2:17                                 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  4:05                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 11:22                                     ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:15                                       ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:49                                         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 17:11                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 19:17                                         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 23:15                                           ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 23:25                                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05  0:07                                               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  0:22                                                 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05  0:46                                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  0:51                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 23:27                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-05  9:47                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05  0:02                                             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 11:39                                               ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:00                                                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:17                                                   ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:18                                                     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 14:11                                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05  9:40                                             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 12:11                                               ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:31                                                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 14:15                                                   ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:40                                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 22:28                                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:42                                                     ` Mick
2014-06-04 12:24                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-04  2:07                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  3:13                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04  0:14                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-03 22:59               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-03 23:07                 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:15                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  1:37           ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04  2:05             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 10:28               ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04 15:11                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-05  6:34                   ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-05 10:36                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:11                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-05 11:23                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:21           ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-04 12:57             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:58             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 13:08               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 18:28                 ` Marc Joliet
2014-06-04 18:45                   ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04 13:47             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-04 13:47               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-08 17:26               ` Apologies - WAS: " Tanstaafl
2014-06-08 20:15                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 15:51             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:06         ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-04 22:14           ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04 22:27             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  5:23               ` Mick
2014-06-05  7:25                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  9:03                   ` Mick
2014-06-05  9:08                     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 10:15                       ` Mick
2014-06-05 10:47                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:26                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:58                     ` Mick
2014-06-05 23:15                       ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-06  5:46                         ` Mick
2014-06-06 11:18                           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-06 19:13                             ` Mick
2014-06-06 19:31                               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-03 15:11   ` [gentoo-user] " Silvio Siefke
2014-06-09 15:34     ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-09 16:18       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-06-09 18:43         ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-10 20:01           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-09 16:21       ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-06-03 16:28   ` Alan McKinnon [this message]

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