From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1EA1381FA for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63D71E0843; Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D7ACE0810 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id cc10so3162774wib.17 for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 04:15:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/aNSmOa8CqfJst1t/CFk61LMi2/nC3R3yQnd2hazM9g=; b=F0l1/scF5datbKAbWx8RIrgx9qiLo544RDxGvxWsd2nYd8SIPnx8TQf+UlPNkvIyC6 sgia286cPjFCWpj1ed9OfwijUZ+G/JgccQf9+3xtYZRgP04m+zSMnYyENqYlOkk+qfh5 eCYewwfGmskwKB3AcXua/l9nYXKi+BVGJeZ+MEstoY01nq5XDeK/tR7Ndqs4jvQ6hnI/ f8wDyM6a0OvlsyCMYGEi0/8jGfJ7Mw9t+oz2RGWCKQjQBv99Qys3ggvXIk/BRH/idEij PiHyCpGKfxlNBvx1xwrEwOC49FviQ8y8D40192GFCmtCaXNQ1O3Of+5xFMidA4+DRZyq TCTA== X-Received: by 10.194.22.100 with SMTP id c4mr40589673wjf.89.1401621306920; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 04:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-215-51-239.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.51.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dk10sm14266486wib.1.2014.06.01.04.15.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Jun 2014 04:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <538B0B0C.6060202@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:14:20 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Did Gnome 3.12 Just Drop? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6e156138-262d-406a-b960-e29fb2ba6fba X-Archives-Hash: 69986f1ace3a3e7f2bd70911dff57e65 On 01/06/2014 11:48, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: > Hi all. I had installed Gnome 3.10 a few days ago, and now things have > been migrating towards 3.12 Has Gnome 3.12 just launched for the x86 > platforms, or is there something amiss with Portage that I should > check? I get this weird update process: it gives me a version, such as > 4.0, but the next day bumps me up to 4.1, which is weird, since logic > would say that 4.1 is the newest, you'd want it over 4.0. Or is it the > SLOTS technology? I've not quite gotten that concept yet. Let's back up a bit and first cover the technique of asking smart questions, as what you typed can't really be answered. You need to supply specifics when asking questions. Vague general questions indicate you are too lazy to think, or you don;t really know what you are doing, and both usually give no answers. Which packages exactly are updating, and why do you think this is noteworthy?For big meta projects like gnome it is quite normal for the low level packages (like libs) to be updated first, then more higher level apps and so on till everything is in the tree. This gives the devs time to get bug reports if those ebuilds still need work. Nothing unusual in this at all. Some packages like KDE don't use this method, they drop everything for the next version in the tree in one commit. Both approaches are valid, neither are incorrect and both are perfectly normal. Your second question also doesn't make sense. You had foo-4.0 and now you get foo-4.1. What's the problem? Nothing crazy is going on, you got an update. If you want a better answer, ask a better question and specify exactly which packages you don't understand. Usually, typing up the mail already shows you what is going on. Here's what probably happened: You got 4.0 because that is what was in the tree. With the next sync you got 4.1 because it has been committed in the interim. What's noteworthy about that? Gentoo moves *very* fast with many commits to the tree in a day. It's not red hat and it's not Windows with patch Tuesday. And it has nothing to do with SLOTs - read the handbook to find out what those are, it's in the install doc. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com