[gentoo-user] What happened to Qt 5?

[gentoo-user] What happened to Qt 5?

[Nikos Chantziaras]

Wasn't it supposed to hit portage a long time ago? Any news? There's 
zero information on the http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/qt site.

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to Qt 5?

[Alan McKinnon]

On 27/05/2014 07:32, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Wasn't it supposed to hit portage a long time ago? Any news? There's
> zero information on the http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/qt site.
> 
> 
> 
> 



Last I heard it was still in the kde overlay and when it moves to
portage new categories qt-* will be created; probably to avoid
clobbering qt4 and confusing kde ebuilds.

I read that on a blog somewhere recently, probably planet. And as usual,
I can't find it now when I look for it

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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to Qt 5?

[Pandu Poluan]

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wasn't it supposed to hit portage a long time ago? Any news? There's zero
> information on the http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/qt site.
>
>

I see many blockers in the "[TRACKER] Qt5 in portage" bug [0].

I do believe the KDE project team monitors Qt5-in-tree closely [1].


[0] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454132
[1] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:KDE/Frameworks


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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to Qt 5?

[wireless]

On 05/27/14 00:40, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Wasn't it supposed to hit portage a long time ago? Any news? There's
> zero information on the http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/qt site.


I run lxde on one desktop; and my experimental results are nothing short 
of fabulous. A while back they (LXDE and razor-qt projects)  decided to 
merge and support QT5. [1] If you have a spare desktop, you might want 
to experiment with QT5 via LXDE-QT [2].


I have not inquired when "LXDE-QT" known also as LXQT will formerly 
appear in portage; I can't remember where I read rumblings about it.
I have just now looked for an overlay [3].

I do like the new (old_school?) approach of LXde and it's resource 
footprint is very, very small.  qt is a fine piece of work; I have
issues with the KDE "vision" and LXQT seems to be reading my mind
on what a gui environment should and should not do, imho.

Lightweight X means it could and should run in many places, easily and 
securely, like in a VM environment, tablets, etc etc.


hth,
James


[1]  http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Migrate_from_GTK%2B_to_Qt

[2] http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Build_LXDE-Qt_From_Source

[3] https://github.com/mika-k/lxqt-overlay

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to Qt 5?

[john]

On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:47:07 -0500
wireless@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

> On 05/27/14 00:40, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > Wasn't it supposed to hit portage a long time ago? Any news? There's
> > zero information on the http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/qt
> > site.
> 
> 
> I run lxde on one desktop; and my experimental results are nothing
> short of fabulous. A while back they (LXDE and razor-qt projects)
> decided to merge and support QT5. [1] If you have a spare desktop,
> you might want to experiment with QT5 via LXDE-QT [2].
> 
> 
> I have not inquired when "LXDE-QT" known also as LXQT will formerly 
> appear in portage; I can't remember where I read rumblings about it.
> I have just now looked for an overlay [3].
> 
> I do like the new (old_school?) approach of LXde and it's resource 
> footprint is very, very small.  qt is a fine piece of work; I have
> issues with the KDE "vision" and LXQT seems to be reading my mind
> on what a gui environment should and should not do, imho.
> 
> Lightweight X means it could and should run in many places, easily
> and securely, like in a VM environment, tablets, etc etc.
> 
> 
> hth,
> James
> 
> 
> [1]  http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Migrate_from_GTK%2B_to_Qt
> 
> [2] http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Build_LXDE-Qt_From_Source
> 
> [3] https://github.com/mika-k/lxqt-overlay
> 

lxqt is up and running in Gentoo. It's listed in packages.
The only problem I had was emerging lxqt-panel but just had to change a use flag of lxqt-panel from quicklauch to
-quicklaunch and it emerged. No problems with anything else and desktop
is good.



-- 
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[gentoo-user] Re: What happened to Qt 5?

[James]

john <jdm <at> jdm.myzen.co.uk> writes:


> lxqt is up and running in Gentoo. It's listed in packages.
> The only problem I had was emerging lxqt-panel but just had to change a
use flag of lxqt-panel from
> quicklauch to
> -quicklaunch and it emerged. No problems with anything else and desktop
> is good.


Wow! Did you do a fresh install or convert from lxde?
If yuo converted, do you like it better? Was the conversion
easy?  Does your usb device auto-discovery/mount thingie work?


Did you use the lxqt-meta package?

got a list of files/configs you have to customize?
useful docs or a wiki?   I'm still fairly new to the
whole lx** thing... But I love the light resource footprint!

Maybe I should put it on a non-essential machine first?

your thoughts and suggestions are welcome.....


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to Qt 5?

[covici]

James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> john <jdm <at> jdm.myzen.co.uk> writes:
> 
> 
> > lxqt is up and running in Gentoo. It's listed in packages.
> > The only problem I had was emerging lxqt-panel but just had to change a
> use flag of lxqt-panel from
> > quicklauch to
> > -quicklaunch and it emerged. No problems with anything else and desktop
> > is good.
> 
> 
> Wow! Did you do a fresh install or convert from lxde?
> If yuo converted, do you like it better? Was the conversion
> easy?  Does your usb device auto-discovery/mount thingie work?
> 
> 
> Did you use the lxqt-meta package?
> 
> got a list of files/configs you have to customize?
> useful docs or a wiki?   I'm still fairly new to the
> whole lx** thing... But I love the light resource footprint!
> 
> Maybe I should put it on a non-essential machine first?
> 
> your thoughts and suggestions are welcome.....

When I tried to emerge lx-qt-neta, it only wanted to emerge qt4
packages, even though I said use=qt5, how can I get it to emerge qt5 as
well, or are they mutually exclusive?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to Qt 5?

[john]

On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 18:11:11 -0400
covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> > john <jdm <at> jdm.myzen.co.uk> writes:
> > 
> > 
> > > lxqt is up and running in Gentoo. It's listed in packages.
> > > The only problem I had was emerging lxqt-panel but just had to
> > > change a
> > use flag of lxqt-panel from
> > > quicklauch to
> > > -quicklaunch and it emerged. No problems with anything else and
> > > desktop is good.
> > 
> > 
> > Wow! Did you do a fresh install or convert from lxde?
> > If yuo converted, do you like it better? Was the conversion
> > easy?  Does your usb device auto-discovery/mount thingie work?
> > 
> > 
> > Did you use the lxqt-meta package?
> > 
> > got a list of files/configs you have to customize?
> > useful docs or a wiki?   I'm still fairly new to the
> > whole lx** thing... But I love the light resource footprint!
> > 
> > Maybe I should put it on a non-essential machine first?
> > 
> > your thoughts and suggestions are welcome.....
> 
> When I tried to emerge lx-qt-neta, it only wanted to emerge qt4
> packages, even though I said use=qt5, how can I get it to emerge qt5
> as well, or are they mutually exclusive?
> 
> 

I "emerge -vp lxqt-meta" and it gave me an output of masked packages
which I populated /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords

eg
=lxqt-base/lxqt-panel-0.7.0-r1 ~amd64
etc

Then emerge "emerge lxqt-meta" again.

It only depends on qt4 packages though. Not sure about qt5 as I believe
this is not available in standard packages yet. I can only see qt
versions 4.8.5 in portage.

Perhaps the use flag is for future functionality. Or you may need to
use an overlay to get qt5.

I did not use lxde before but razor. Its very similar to this.



-- 
John D Maunder

[gentoo-user] Re: What happened to Qt 5?

[James]

john <jdm <at> jdm.myzen.co.uk> writes:

> 
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 18:11:11 -0400
> covici <at> ccs.covici.com wrote:
> 
> > James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > john <jdm <at> jdm.myzen.co.uk> writes:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > lxqt is up and running in Gentoo. It's listed in packages.
> > > > The only problem I had was emerging lxqt-panel but just had to
> > > > change a
> > > use flag of lxqt-panel from
> > > > quicklauch to
> > > > -quicklaunch and it emerged. No problems with anything else and
> > > > desktop is good.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Wow! Did you do a fresh install or convert from lxde?
> > > If yuo converted, do you like it better? Was the conversion
> > > easy?  Does your usb device auto-discovery/mount thingie work?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Did you use the lxqt-meta package?
> > > 
> > > got a list of files/configs you have to customize?
> > > useful docs or a wiki?   I'm still fairly new to the
> > > whole lx** thing... But I love the light resource footprint!
> > > 
> > > Maybe I should put it on a non-essential machine first?
> > > 
> > > your thoughts and suggestions are welcome.....
> > 
> > When I tried to emerge lx-qt-neta, it only wanted to emerge qt4
> > packages, even though I said use=qt5, how can I get it to emerge qt5
> > as well, or are they mutually exclusive?
> > 
> > 
> 
> I "emerge -vp lxqt-meta" and it gave me an output of masked packages
> which I populated /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords
> 
> eg
> =lxqt-base/lxqt-panel-0.7.0-r1 ~amd64
> etc
> 
> Then emerge "emerge lxqt-meta" again.
> 
> It only depends on qt4 packages though. Not sure about qt5 as I believe
> this is not available in standard packages yet. I can only see qt
> versions 4.8.5 in portage.
> 
> Perhaps the use flag is for future functionality. Or you may need to
> use an overlay to get qt5.

I'm pretty sure this overlay uses QT5, if you read overlay listing here:

https://github.com/mika-k/lxqt-overlay

I have only been using lxde for a few months and it's been a bit
painful makking every thing work. USD auto recongnition still does
not work, but that may be a kernel issue.

I used "openbox (3.5.2-r1). I do not want to result to a problem
install, so I'm builing up an old system to install the overlay 
with QT5 on it, for testing and eval.

If anyone has converted from lxde(openbox) to to lxqt, and has precise
syntactially correct guidance, then I'd give it a shot. I've had to 
manually all sorts of (conflicting) config files here and there
to get to where I am (various xterms etc). Hell, I'm not even positive
of the dozen or so little config files the lxde-openbox is reading.
Sometime I know it is several.


So the one thing I'm looking for in lxqt is a singular set of 
config files to control the desktop. That is my only negative
experience with LX*. Other that that, its fablulous and bodes
well for my journey to a James_enviroment on everything I have to
use. I also intend to run evernything on hardened and maybe 
even SeLinux, after the basic desktop is robustly cool.

Anybody putting lxqt(5) onto android tablets?  Windows? Cell phones
or any arm based hardware, yet?

> I did not use lxde before but razor. Its very similar to this.

Without clear migration path/encourage, I'm more inclined to experiment
on yet another box. Maybe the pentoo project would be supporting 
LXqt(5) ?  or LilBlue ?

That would be berry, berry COOL!

Comments, suggestions or guidance is keenly appreciated.

James