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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems References: <5364C0F9.3000906@xunil.at> <536545AB.2060008@xunil.at> <53672D31.1030108@xunil.at> <53746809.9080604@xunil.at> <5374855C.4040203@xunil.at> <537506FE.3090701@xunil.at> <5375DE75.7070501@xunil.at> <5375F141.5080704@gmail.com> <16553.1400238867@ccs.covici.com> <20140516130319.2a03b778@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <537605FC.1000202@xunil.at> <20140516134304.1748f047@hactar.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20140516134304.1748f047@hactar.digimed.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2c X-Archives-Salt: 77c0c6d8-5ff7-4086-acd4-4f4672e2cdc7 X-Archives-Hash: 0649fb04b1ae6d774ca7024e50c6db3a -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 16.05.2014 14:43, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Fri, 16 May 2014 14:35:08 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> zfs on linux ... it works fine for me on one server, but I never >> really wanted it on my main machines (desktop and laptops) >> although I once even wrote some "how to use zfs on your fully >> encrypted laptop" for a magazine. It always feels like >> "suboptimal because it is not in the kernel" to me (think >> licensing issues here). > > That's why I'm looking at btrfs. ZFS is great, it does all I want > it to. But it is not in the kernel, which is not a major issue. > More important is that it is based on an old version of ZFS, later > versions are still closed source. That's a shame, because they > support neat things like encryption (yet another separate layer got > rid of) and it means ZFS on Linux can't really go anywhere beyond > bug fixes and minor tweaks. Yes, this way one gets stuck somehow with ZFSonLinux. btrfs also does not yet support encryption ... I assume that will come over the time, I don't know if this is still correct: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Project_ideas#Encryption But the features available already are great ... https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page#Features ;-) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTdgyvAAoJEClcuD1V0PzmtWsQAIzyrvFT7gp6WblJi3tXtiDN pj/o4mVLGfQ99jT4eyEi3W3mTs6z1dnLk2tfg5PRmI+tAkV4Y/M/AQ4oKuRWqYGo zK6NFREqTQJlwRvHW1dZAWmOA0Jn2IRqPhfr6Q5ZoBMKhVJhS6zqjTvtxQc7qVwr TZCmkCtBHp8OY/lYD2wZpvqVYjZFcKDvtIXPEwGFCwoeQvn0QcYvdVGWTWe5kCvN JwC3ry6UlKXscqfwTUqqio6vcyxgpr0Pqun908oE0XT0UeIhySB2l6eVVgHc6I4S t5tIOngeqOEaIECchjmkuhau8lkQGUIZyIuzHqi/36TBmiWitHx91FrhONbj1TC7 qQywCcf0oRamBzelYGywqLPmH7Gjh0OXV9eXRNDCeyd5WXOPqBPxdR7jGLNX9G/Z vbD7jiPHOu/DyY96Ks/RiHkiFtfG2pzMivRF8Vu5pUf8H6KmLShm71yOGf+AsxtE BLDR2t1ibscd6FHlZ6kDQHkdDMf4wssDzP2ASiH8Std5vFVSJyNGC4VNkHSkNzLP JTFLAI6Q1hy5k6GkleioVNGVaMQCp09L8aY5pCherAAN+wE2POEyx0z3eHIK3Cxg m1AQWJVOIn7+ykBwJkLF4NgJEDGQ9L4J6GR0rUA+i6/x0nvUiizKPCeNdTv9O4Of GaoiLnwuetJaCLIzDnhY =MTN5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----