From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C831381FA for ; Sun, 4 May 2014 13:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 271F6E0A5E; Sun, 4 May 2014 13:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from postler.lichtfels.com (postler.lichtfels.com [78.46.92.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9A40E0A59 for ; Sun, 4 May 2014 13:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postler.lichtfels.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C712DC41 for ; Sun, 4 May 2014 15:07:32 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=xunil.at; s=mailout; t=1399208852; bh=8co8vXgxliudmYptFx8AiCMK9+j/4lHcYrusbwsv0q8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=Hv/99LaQsgTnGksQGAECDPe6SCWzVccZAVcZRIEcDZe6AzTcoX0pe9UvI2FMPDhK+ AJp0SrUqQ1ntXVXF51rLrj4x/wXJzcoTOTQE2YTuhU1AamYDH6Q5hbBdhMJyEcJQ1+ ySY+xeGs8EyFallqXZHcbfKZugIqKT+g/jnsGHSQ= Received: from postler.lichtfels.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (postler.lichtfels.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 24002-09 for ; Sun, 4 May 2014 15:07:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:15c0:65ff:8742:70ef:304d:1003:50db] (unknown [IPv6:2001:15c0:65ff:8742:70ef:304d:1003:50db]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by postler.lichtfels.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 62D071573E for ; Sun, 4 May 2014 15:07:28 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=xunil.at; s=mailout; t=1399208849; bh=8co8vXgxliudmYptFx8AiCMK9+j/4lHcYrusbwsv0q8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=gJnPCKqHgUGkD3Et5r4aZ9oPQan8vdzsEN004jIrC/3xmj5lJKrUg46O4m4SmQCU9 UGrv16j/P+BoZmbLDKZVOjHaixIslcjbT8dwnsL3K3BVMK1Y47h0qz8IjFdyHf5QtV /aE0isEXfrQTCjlLeuY8myvOoTshY/cLhSNAW6o8= Message-ID: <53663B90.6050600@xunil.at> Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 15:07:28 +0200 From: "Stefan G. Weichinger" Organization: oops! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems References: <5364C0F9.3000906@xunil.at> <6603098.FxQB9JV5gG@wstn> <5366052A.8080209@xunil.at> <3349320.Vv5J0h2UtC@andromeda> In-Reply-To: <3349320.Vv5J0h2UtC@andromeda> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2c X-Archives-Salt: 820acfd4-898f-499e-b9f3-b97e3b320c2f X-Archives-Hash: 856262eb9870e75aeb802fd4ee762396 Am 04.05.2014 12:49, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > I wouldn't use the stripe/mirror support in LVM as I don't think it is used > often and I feel that functionality doesn't belong in LVM. > If you want to move it all into a single layer, I would suggest ZFS instead. Oh, yes, I like ZFS and its features and used it in some cases already. But I didn't yet take the step to set up ZFS-root on my work machines. >> And then you get into issues with block sizes and stuff, where I always >> wonder why *I* have to type all these parameters ... why doesn't modern >> software just come with this knowledge inside? >> >> .... you know >> >> *sigh* ;-) > > I agree, and I feel that has actually improved over time with modern tools > defaulting to 4k sectors. Yes, but it always feels like "I missed something" when you look at the various layers: partitioning at correct sectors, RAIDs with their parameters, creating PVs with PEs aligned ... and then the filesystems. I never get the feeling that I really did it right from the base to the top. > Then it should work, provided you have all the required drivers inside your > kernel and not as modules. > I also believe an initramfs is needed when using LABELs for the root-fs. Interesting. I don't really care if I have an initramfs or not, as long as things work ... The feature with LABELs is nice for preparing installations in VMs and then move it to physical hardware (eg. /dev/vda1 then becomes /dev/sda1 or /dev/md0 and booting fails). > At the moment, I don't see, from a simple user perspective, any real difference > between booting using UEFI and BIOS/MBR. UEFI is one thing, GPT partitioning another. Being able to have more than the 4 primary partitions of MBR looks good to me ... I will see where my motivation leads to ;-) Stefan