[gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

[gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

[Grant Edwards]

I use msmtp for outgoing mail, and plan to continue to do so.

However, I need to temporarily set up an SMTP server to accept
incoming mail from "the Internet" for local users.  It is not going to
handle sending of email, and I need it _not_ to install something as
/usr/bin/sendmail (that's already taken by msmtp).  It doesn't need to
handle queueing, relaying, or anything other than acting as an SMTP
server and delivering mail locally to mbox or maildir destinations.

What's the easiest/simplest MTA to set up for that?

sendmail? (No... just no.)

qmail? (Seems a bit overly complex for my use case).

postfix?

exim?

It's been a long time since I've used either postfix or exim, but I
don't remember either of them being too complex to configure.

I'm guessing that Portgage is going to object to installing both msmtp
and postfix/exim, so I'll probably have to build the rx-only MTA from
sources and install it in a non-standard location?

Maybe I should just write a simple SMTP server in Python. [That's
actually a lot easier than it sounds.  Python's standard library has
an smtpd class that's pretty simple to use.]

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                                                   prescription!!

Re: [gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am 10.04.2014 17:32, schrieb Grant Edwards:
> I use msmtp for outgoing mail, and plan to continue to do so.
>
> However, I need to temporarily set up an SMTP server to accept
> incoming mail from "the Internet" for local users.  It is not going to
> handle sending of email, and I need it _not_ to install something as
> /usr/bin/sendmail (that's already taken by msmtp).  It doesn't need to
> handle queueing, relaying, or anything other than acting as an SMTP
> server and delivering mail locally to mbox or maildir destinations.
>
> What's the easiest/simplest MTA to set up for that?
>
> sendmail? (No... just no.)
>
> qmail? (Seems a bit overly complex for my use case).
>
> postfix?
>
> exim?
>
> It's been a long time since I've used either postfix or exim, but I
> don't remember either of them being too complex to configure.
>
> I'm guessing that Portgage is going to object to installing both msmtp
> and postfix/exim, so I'll probably have to build the rx-only MTA from
> sources and install it in a non-standard location?
>
> Maybe I should just write a simple SMTP server in Python. [That's
> actually a lot easier than it sounds.  Python's standard library has
> an smtpd class that's pretty simple to use.]
>
well, IMHO postfix is pretty easy to setup up. While sendmail is a
complete nightmare.

Exim&qmail - never touched those.

Re: [gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday 10 Apr 2014 17:41:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> well, IMHO postfix is pretty easy to setup up. While sendmail is a
> complete nightmare.

I've just about got it set up here, so it can't be too hard.

> Exim&qmail - never touched those.

Are they even still maintained?

-- 
Regards
Peter

[gentoo-user] Re: What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2014-04-10, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thursday 10 Apr 2014 17:41:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
>> well, IMHO postfix is pretty easy to setup up. While sendmail is a
>> complete nightmare.
>
> I've just about got it set up here, so it can't be too hard.
>
>> Exim&qmail - never touched those.
>
> Are they even still maintained?

According to http://bugs.exim.org, bugs were still being resolved 9
days ago (though the most recent bug _fix_ was 5 weeks ago).

qmail hasn't been touched since 2007, so it seems to be abandoned.

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Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! Nipples, dimples,
                                  at               knuckles, NICKLES,
                              gmail.com            wrinkles, pimples!!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

[hasufell]

Grant Edwards:
> On 2014-04-10, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Thursday 10 Apr 2014 17:41:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>
>>> well, IMHO postfix is pretty easy to setup up. While sendmail is a
>>> complete nightmare.
>>
>> I've just about got it set up here, so it can't be too hard.
>>
>>> Exim&qmail - never touched those.
>>
>> Are they even still maintained?
> 
> According to http://bugs.exim.org, bugs were still being resolved 9
> days ago (though the most recent bug _fix_ was 5 weeks ago).
> 
> qmail hasn't been touched since 2007, so it seems to be abandoned.
> 

good to know it's still in stable arch... ugh

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

[Alan Mackenzie]

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 08:09:48PM +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:

> qmail hasn't been touched since 2007, so it seems to be abandoned.

That's somewhat of an exaggeration.  qmail has been public domain since
2007, and its core hadn't been touched for about a decade before that.
Due to the way the project was shepherded, the normal way it developed
was by circulating patches, and that's still the way things are.

There's an active mailing list for qmail at qmail@list.cr.yp.to.  I think
the software is still being developed, but I couldn't cite the site.

Certainly, qmail is still in use.  I like it.


> -- 
> Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! Nipples, dimples,
>                                   at               knuckles, NICKLES,
>                               gmail.com            wrinkles, pimples!!

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

[Alan McKinnon]

On 10/04/2014 17:41, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am 10.04.2014 17:32, schrieb Grant Edwards:
>> I use msmtp for outgoing mail, and plan to continue to do so.
>>
>> However, I need to temporarily set up an SMTP server to accept
>> incoming mail from "the Internet" for local users.  It is not going to
>> handle sending of email, and I need it _not_ to install something as
>> /usr/bin/sendmail (that's already taken by msmtp).  It doesn't need to
>> handle queueing, relaying, or anything other than acting as an SMTP
>> server and delivering mail locally to mbox or maildir destinations.
>>
>> What's the easiest/simplest MTA to set up for that?
>>
>> sendmail? (No... just no.)
>>
>> qmail? (Seems a bit overly complex for my use case).
>>
>> postfix?
>>
>> exim?
>>
>> It's been a long time since I've used either postfix or exim, but I
>> don't remember either of them being too complex to configure.
>>
>> I'm guessing that Portgage is going to object to installing both msmtp
>> and postfix/exim, so I'll probably have to build the rx-only MTA from
>> sources and install it in a non-standard location?
>>
>> Maybe I should just write a simple SMTP server in Python. [That's
>> actually a lot easier than it sounds.  Python's standard library has
>> an smtpd class that's pretty simple to use.]
>>
> well, IMHO postfix is pretty easy to setup up. While sendmail is a
> complete nightmare.

Agreed. Postfix is about as simple as defining MYDESTINATION and you are
good to go

> 
> Exim&qmail - never touched those.

isn't qmail abandonware? Either that or Dan considers is 100% bug free
and not in need of maintenance.Plus it has that horrible license.



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

[Carlos Sura]

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I would say postfix for sure.


On 10 April 2014 16:52, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 10/04/2014 17:41, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > Am 10.04.2014 17:32, schrieb Grant Edwards:
> >> I use msmtp for outgoing mail, and plan to continue to do so.
> >>
> >> However, I need to temporarily set up an SMTP server to accept
> >> incoming mail from "the Internet" for local users.  It is not going to
> >> handle sending of email, and I need it _not_ to install something as
> >> /usr/bin/sendmail (that's already taken by msmtp).  It doesn't need to
> >> handle queueing, relaying, or anything other than acting as an SMTP
> >> server and delivering mail locally to mbox or maildir destinations.
> >>
> >> What's the easiest/simplest MTA to set up for that?
> >>
> >> sendmail? (No... just no.)
> >>
> >> qmail? (Seems a bit overly complex for my use case).
> >>
> >> postfix?
> >>
> >> exim?
> >>
> >> It's been a long time since I've used either postfix or exim, but I
> >> don't remember either of them being too complex to configure.
> >>
> >> I'm guessing that Portgage is going to object to installing both msmtp
> >> and postfix/exim, so I'll probably have to build the rx-only MTA from
> >> sources and install it in a non-standard location?
> >>
> >> Maybe I should just write a simple SMTP server in Python. [That's
> >> actually a lot easier than it sounds.  Python's standard library has
> >> an smtpd class that's pretty simple to use.]
> >>
> > well, IMHO postfix is pretty easy to setup up. While sendmail is a
> > complete nightmare.
>
> Agreed. Postfix is about as simple as defining MYDESTINATION and you are
> good to go
>
> >
> > Exim&qmail - never touched those.
>
> isn't qmail abandonware? Either that or Dan considers is 100% bug free
> and not in need of maintenance.Plus it has that horrible license.
>
>
>
> --
> Alan McKinnon
> alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
>
>
>


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www.carlossura.com/blog

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