From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094281391D2 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2014 03:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D000CE0ACE; Sat, 8 Mar 2014 03:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out1.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out1.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.210]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315DEE0AB0 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2014 03:34:12 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFALmOGlNqRKlL/2dsb2JhbABagwa/N4MKgRQWdIIlAQEBBGwCCAIRCw0LCRYPCQMCAQIBRRMIAQEah1rQBBeOYhaEIgSJTo51hkooizmDOjA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,612,1389715200"; d="scan'208";a="201587301" Received: from unknown (HELO moriah.localdomain) ([106.68.169.75]) by icp-osb-irony-out1.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 08 Mar 2014 11:34:10 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EBC1644A for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:33:56 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lan.localdomain Received: from moriah.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moriah.lan.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xFb5zAOEusJc for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:33:06 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.44.3] (moriah [192.168.44.3]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518F43677 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:33:06 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <531A8F71.3080002@iinet.net.au> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2014 11:33:05 +0800 From: William Kenworthy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] LiveCDs for Uni students References: <531A6A4E.8000102@wht.com.au> In-Reply-To: <531A6A4E.8000102@wht.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 128a54d5-e090-4204-8d1a-2cdd2f3b9ee2 X-Archives-Hash: 8da1424568c0b10f2de64af98a678850 On 08/03/14 08:54, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > I'm doing some research on the topic of LiveCD's and was after any > input the list may have. > > I'm a tutor at a Uni in Australia teaching, amongst others, 1st year > Engineering students. We teach them C. Last year we had a lab set up and > as well, they could ssh into a Linux box from home so that they could do > assignments. Now due to a bureaucratic change ssh access is now gone. > > I would guess that there would be under 1% Linux penetration with > respect to home computers and I've tried, in the past, to help students > set up a dev environment on Macs - a horrid experience, and lets not > even mention trying to easily set up Win* with a dev environemt > > I'm looking for a lightweight LiveCD that includes a graphical > environment and gcc/clang so that we can make it available on our > internal network for the students to download/burn and use at home. Does > anyone have any ideas/experience in something like this? I've looked at > Lubuntu but it lacks gcc. > > Any thoughts are greatly appreciated. > > Andrew > Hi Andrew ... I stopped doing this awhile back when broadband became common. Now I tell them to download and install via linuxmint/ubuntu etc. and let the distros do the heavy lifting (in virtual box if they dont have the hardware) - and supply a set of instructions to install the wanted packages and configuration (which I have sometimes done by a downloadable script which abbreviates the instructions.) I have used gentoo in labs for some low level tasks/demos and point students to it if they really want to learn about Linux but for most undergrad courses its too non-core to actually get them to build a system. Catalyst can build a customised gentoo system but a) its a lot of work for a small gain and b) you will find yourself doing a lot of support better done by the distros (help, mailing lists, updates, fixes, ...) BillK