From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC27138E66 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3C1CE0B18; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from forward9l.mail.yandex.net (forward9l.mail.yandex.net [84.201.143.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B2A6E0ACD for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (smtp3h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.186.20]) by forward9l.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 87B7FE60E5B for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:13:46 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 460531B4365C for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:13:46 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 31.207.68.115.static.pushkinnet.ru (31.207.68.115.static.pushkinnet.ru [31.207.68.115]) by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 32UjBL4pLu-DjY0WNin; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:13:45 +0400 (using TLSv1 with cipher CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Uniq: a21551b6-1697-44db-a1ff-a47ef484a9de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1393272825; bh=EKXz43gY0F1t13LRWHE+QWxDBJvU8i8hF5Xmoxy/Ugs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UXSYmqZN6sKmxP1EPNaInc/skn1LHegfZ1UHXNbpwI0V37j3inWySH28Yyi37j7Bd uNTLiHSxLBy0s3AkXPEYEuScYbB8T4F+Mq2zRtHozM7zvw6RGwumBEUFdOTkgJkLcc 8kcR0DpX3IQOY4dqb2CopjJRYyCoB9d2Tr6qV9+E= Authentication-Results: smtp3h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Message-ID: <530BA7FC.5080804@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:13:48 +0400 From: "Yuri K. Shatroff" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <5301B3E1.3000007@yandex.ru> <201402231335.31992.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <530A7700.4030809@gmail.com> <530AF085.1000206@yandex.ru> <530B4C29.5080406@yandex.ru> <530B8481.9010402@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2e89903b-d52f-4783-8c24-99a5758d4b2c X-Archives-Hash: 605bc6d29480d88dfb85459cdae00a81 On 24.02.2014 22:55, Mark David Dumlao wrote: [...] > > I didn't attribute anything to you you didn't say. It just so happens, though > that there is a context to this conversation, which, if you ignore, just > tends to perpetuate a lot of confusion. I am responding to questions and > points in that context for the benefit of the larger conversation, not > just for you. I'll be short. You also ignored much of what I asked, and tend to answer "that's besides the point" to things which IMO matter. If you are responding to my post, then I'm expecting you to be replying to me, rather than to the benefit of the larger conversation, if you didn't say otherwise. ;-) As for the context, I was answering to Alan's ``I've been wondering about this concept of "the*nix design principles"... `` which (as well as my answer) didn't mention systemd and openrc at all. In this thread, there's already a rattling mixture of contexts. I'm opting out of it, because I no longer see the benefit of the larger conversation here. Nevertheless, thank you for your time and answers. -- Best wishes, Yuri K. Shatroff