From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1537138EE2 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3314E0E4C; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from uberouter3.guranga.net (unknown [78.25.223.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8B8DE0C2C for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.151.100] (unknown [192.168.151.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uberouter3.guranga.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 50575829D1 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:26:18 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <5308A57A.9010302@thegeezer.net> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:26:18 +0000 From: thegeezer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <5302c048.462f0e0a.3d3e.5888@mx.google.com> <20140218210633.d25f4bb88b3891f7c0ed11c6@gmail.com> <20140218220712.9ec8d2529ef49d743b3bc826@gmail.com> <5304576E.4000704@sporkbox.us> <5304A5DE.4050905@libertytrek.org> <5305FACC.8080705@libertytrek.org> <530646EA.4020300@libertytrek.org> <5306603C.1040602@libertytrek.org> <53078DF7.30603@thegeezer.net> <5b3a85c3098fa64bc97d071b1b957ce8.squirrel@www.antarean.org> <5308A472.40600@thegeezer.net> In-Reply-To: <5308A472.40600@thegeezer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b37c37a2-f5cf-4700-b561-122f92b23bd0 X-Archives-Hash: 6c42818a01e26995b13493ce8d98a636 On 02/22/2014 01:21 PM, thegeezer wrote: > On 02/21/2014 08:33 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Fri, February 21, 2014 18:33, thegeezer wrote: >>> On 02/20/2014 08:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> >>> .. setting systemd to log to syslog to make transitions smoother (as >>> logs are lost on reboot by default) >> Eeerh, logs are lost on reboot? > until you configure journald to have persistent logs >> I only had (it died last weekend) one (yes, ONE) machine that was so >> configured and that was a netbook with only 16GB SSD. >> >> On all my machines I want to SEE the logs especially if it reboots >> unexpectedly. > which is why i suggest using syslogd to smooth the transition. the last > thing anyone wants to do with a new system is learn how to find out > where the error logs are or how to access them from busybox for those that might need it heads up to make sure you have an initramfs with journalctl builtin https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00863.html >