From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE7C138E20 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 18:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6ED23E0EFF; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 18:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaacbg.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.216]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A819E0EDE for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 18:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D79A7D406F for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:05:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=libertytrek.org; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= libertytrek.org; bh=QC2CAN/WSA24jLWn6jatRFWOpGw=; b=JUTWwoUqFXWi 89P5Z/0RLnpZnawxo9s4BZqE7w4lWYuK+MUNVEyopz1LsSC99siTtDohV1zeOW8t qr1kop2tp0/3nts+s/OyaM6Y4MgYbKCBbFNM1mOs3ty4L4V/5YHOlafhN/kLg+Xs y+KF5+n/9KSpBcoTTgqslZNN1fqsLkk= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [159.63.145.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tanstaafl@libertytrek.org) by homiemail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A99B7D4074 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:05:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53079562.9040200@libertytrek.org> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 13:05:22 -0500 From: Tanstaafl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: OT: 'profit motive' - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <52FF9D58.3000608@libertytrek.org> <52FFCE52.5060401@sporkbox.us> <5306990B.1030506@sporkbox.us> <5306BC47.9080803@sporkbox.us> <5307537F.5020506@libertytrek.org> <530755DE.7060007@sporkbox.us> <530757EE.204@libertytrek.org> <53075A91.2070903@sporkbox.us> <53075CC3.1030104@libertytrek.org> <5307711d.c5670e0a.2915.701e@mx.google.com> <5307772F.2010708@libertytrek.org> <53077D8A.3070402@gentoo.org> <530783E8.1050502@libertytrek.org> <53078A14.5060304@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53078A14.5060304@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5f5f8b2a-9529-44b9-a8ec-f28e0b23b80b X-Archives-Hash: 2ee241f0b20bf6d32b723a1cb8761f89 On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell wrote: > Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common thing in > this world. It can even be intentional, causing no emotional, > financial, social or intellectual profit. Maybe you have never met > such a person or have never been in such an environment. You are confusing 'intent' with 'result'. Even self-destructive behavior is in the vast majority of cases engaged in with the *intention* of profit. Best example I can think of would be a drug addict/alcoholic. When they use/drink, they 'profit' in that the feel better (albeit temporarily), regardless of the ultimate result.