From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BAD138E20 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D533E0B6F; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a57.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaabii.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.188]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDEFE0B4B for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a57.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a57.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB27208070 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:18:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=libertytrek.org; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= libertytrek.org; bh=fDbybhc4gMj24tnOeFPgDtBN/Q0=; b=wKEbwWoKzhLg TgqnjpvEmLtE0+myTDggPrV+My1xTMGPPxaPBp0+EKVVOG5d42k6ztUWDxn69UAx rtqXYCFBkyZbCf9qNxClKXxQ/fDr+9nyKXZvcNa38SBoNXYBCEJJXtuizmhT7J+2 ukvDVuWNKaX83ISd8y36ck3BYSIaTzI= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [159.63.145.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tanstaafl@libertytrek.org) by homiemail-a57.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8836420806D for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:18:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <530646EA.4020300@libertytrek.org> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:18:18 -0500 From: Tanstaafl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <53010A8E.2050909@googlemail.com> <53012691.6040503@googlemail.com> <20140217215255.5766cb026df2f0b8002f8702@gmail.com> <5302c048.462f0e0a.3d3e.5888@mx.google.com> <20140218210633.d25f4bb88b3891f7c0ed11c6@gmail.com> <20140218220712.9ec8d2529ef49d743b3bc826@gmail.com> <5304576E.4000704@sporkbox.us> <5304A5DE.4050905@libertytrek.org> <5305FACC.8080705@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 2309d042-d8fc-49af-8f00-28ab315ec331 X-Archives-Hash: ea5cfe3bd1dbd01088c025e88fb127e3 On 2014-02-20 10:55 AM, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s = wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Tanstaafl = wrote: >> while I agree with most everything you said, your primary point - >> that it should be the people who *don't* want systemd doing all of >> the work - was backwards, and that was what I wanted to point out. > I still believe that a non-systemd profile should be done by the > people not wanting to use systemd. But since I now support the systemd > profile (since it's trivial) the point is moot. >> Bottom line: since Gentoo's default and primary init system is (and >> hopefully will be for a very long time) OpenRC, it is on the systemd f= olks >> to do the work to get systemd fully supported. > Which has been the case up until now. As you have freely admitted that OpenRC being the default init system=20 for gentoo is unlikely to change anytime soon, I'm at a loss as to how=20 you can justify your first comment above? Your comment would only make=20 sense if systemd was made the default init system.