From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758D3138BF3 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 695B9E0A98; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaabib.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676E1E09DB for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB61A68C065 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:53:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=libertytrek.org; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= libertytrek.org; bh=OM2S6q3CNJ3F60iKMy0zLO9mBnw=; b=px50mTAkfVai EMhd5Jp4OUiZDj6KlhW83Rwft/KkFg6k0/tVC2Bx5gGZPA8oAiyrUFhWfNw1wWhN aDEFwmSnuxxYmZuaGUk+JwhD6F+M3x+rM21yb02II8o13CxZGZFUEuwz2tTb3QMV aR0JVaE94U4yO+0gxWXLms8yPAJYE4E= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [159.63.145.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tanstaafl@libertytrek.org) by homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B4CC68C05B for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:53:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53026881.6090101@libertytrek.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:52:33 -0500 From: Tanstaafl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <52FF9D58.3000608@libertytrek.org> <201402152023.10543.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <5300DD51.5060207@libertytrek.org> <53010A8E.2050909@googlemail.com> <53012691.6040503@googlemail.com> <20140217215255.5766cb026df2f0b8002f8702@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20140217215255.5766cb026df2f0b8002f8702@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: dde3f00c-d8d1-4b01-b4c5-05342df7f519 X-Archives-Hash: 12a4c1cfa3c37622b2a4c26da9b1b343 On 2014-02-17 12:52 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > And this is a very, very bad idea. Looks like you don't know matter at > all: to begin with kdbus protocol is NOT compatible dbus and special > converter daemon will be needed to enable dbus to talk to kdbus. The > whole kdbus technology is very questionable itself (and was > forcefully pushed by RH devs), anyway it is possible to disable this > stuff in kernel and guess what will be done on my systems. Forcefully? Are you saying that *anyone* can *force* Linus to put something into the kernel? I'd also really, *really* like to hear a *recent* opinion from Linus on systemd...