From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F01D1380DC for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 23:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CEA2E09F8; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 23:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm12-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6749FE0944 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 23:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2014 23:27:59 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.244] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2014 23:27:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2014 23:27:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 67110.41543.bm@smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 0z7GMNcVM1lu9PoJh632SuUqxLENniIBl_Wj5xCGy.F7kBq M7tLxXQe9e6pWu_bpZWvv2iTNV0DVRuGOPVDOgNdzRM6rNqYuh5_pHiWOhCX vi6rhjU3Q_E6K17r5vHP_8magA_Cxi4G6D21aiSaBDVWLHyvI9VyLuWJKTSb W4pluKnPecvXlJNStTnaOnotWSjeOgNN5E_AV.Ke8Kh2S1Yx8tp_SWT2y3Jy WQtlb5z_xtcnN4sNYkv7JsKG_17m.Hb8exxdGU9vxz5yHikUs9tJS2nPHjAI h4CqOS5j5jJz.qC16Z.xmdCiEajklWTCwKT9O700VJds__noeJyLLYIaQns7 wdARx0NF_NQSWg502ZpRFjUX0cNy0nHqQp2EGviv.mW5VHG41PK1xor33RKz gLdp6dLjZ_0y_cyivhSsJHzf6TXfWBW3mgjnxO1B0_zyYioestsgY_NZkr2C KeksGcgo.xBBAw56Fuyc_.htjstSR.57TTmekVSBiiGdq6LoEbo3I5rtlKw4 tWavgZKX5n_7AgN29O5MO1C5F2qA1hdzCVuMtxImRnOF94Gs- X-Yahoo-SMTP: oM3WcDSswBC7zv73TQKEsi7eAZ0- X-Rocket-Received: from [206.125.41.94] (w41ter@206.125.41.94 with plain [98.138.31.74]) by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Feb 2014 23:27:58 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <52F1777B.9080200@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 15:27:55 -0800 From: walt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev References: <20140204195807.GG6850@syscon7.ed.shawcable.net> <52F15ED4.7060409@sporkbox.us> <87siryldes.fsf@nyu.edu> In-Reply-To: <87siryldes.fsf@nyu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1de2c8dd-e7af-42b6-be7a-6672d79eaa96 X-Archives-Hash: 88a11d77a2b626df9ccdfe52e791cd23 On 02/04/2014 02:29 PM, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04 2014, Daniel Campbell wrote: > >> On 02/04/2014 01:58 PM, Joseph wrote: >>> Is it possible to go from "systemd" to "udev"? >>> >>> I don't like the way systemd works. I have a problem with mounting USB >>> sick (it mounts as root:root) and I can not even change the permission. >>> I am receiving Hylafax fax transmission reports (email) on all incoming >>> faxes and now these emails are empty. >>> It all start happening after switching to systemd :-( >>> >> >> systemd and udev are part of the same project, so I believe what you >> meant was switching from systemd to OpenRC. I've not made such a switch, >> but if you remember the steps you took, you can generally just reverse >> them. That is, emerge openrc again, change the kernel line in GRUB to >> point to regular init instead of systemd's init, reboot, and things >> *should* fall into place. >> >> USB drives mounting as root sounds like a udev thing rather than a >> systemd thing, and switching to OpenRC for your init won't fix it afaik. >> For the devices that you need this behavior for, it might be worth >> looking into writing some udev rules. You can get a start by consulting >> `lsusb` output and Googling for 'udev rules' to get a wide variety of >> guides for writing udev rules. Despite the recent changes to udev by the >> systemd team, udev still functions mostly the same and most guides will >> be accurate. >> >> I hope this helps! >> >> ~Daniel > > There are changes in USE. -systemd +consolekit > If you switched to a systemd profile, switch back. I'm sure that unsetting the consolekit useflag (when I switched to systemd) resulted in some non-MicroSoft behavior, e.g. I now need to authenticate as root when plugging or ejecting a USB stick, and yet again when I poweroff or reboot the machine Being the only user of this machine, I could work up some outrage over this new PITA -- but I've decided not to be outraged. I pretend to be a sysadmin and imagine how I would feel if an arbitrary user demanded the ability to plug any arbitrary USB stick into his corporate workstation. Well, I'm not a corporate sysadmin, and never will be, but I think I'd be reluctant to let him do it. Any official sysadmins out there have an infallible opinion to offer?