From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19E1138A1F for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:25:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A795E0B76; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67A79E0B69 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6D120544 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:25:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.co.uk; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mesmtp; bh=BxK5iQtwpRsKDQls6Sb+SnD5xd4=; b=aetL1DHBGRKw3mGD1a2R9TNIAdbN tRU3qo11lpr2YG+Yz0iKYsVv1s5f/W3iUq4kHoNqHuI+qOpOxGZRL3K0Adxrwak9 QibgNy6COUsTUX//Lr86omL7Gwv942CrHwkMjKQ4NLTB+1K9yN/3aen5VmxpJoPs xcfMFZnOI3nwzQw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=BxK5iQtwpRsKDQls6Sb+Sn D5xd4=; b=NIALVH62ZcaJr/zORnvr5tDoPAxu/0CR5EL514sXyEwT7EV0sXnK1L /Uc0eMjrCyzzN+6ptF5TjEHgWTFeaQPW+JNiHdS7Ri9d2S+QWbAFxzaCWwEQPQZ1 IXjH6orCmUBPMvDczqA0gXxLX/7e6bC2YQphXjPUKE1yQjCrclPnw= X-Sasl-enc: +UatENvA/ZAX35uctyNvjxBx6Rp3k+KRr5zRhjeTnnW1 1391005500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [77.101.146.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A619568018C for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:25:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <52E90F33.8030208@fastmail.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:24:51 +0000 From: Kerin Millar User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.8 (Windows/20130427) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably References: <20140126162426.7a6d1f30@falcon.eroen.eu> <52E54920.5010207@gmail.com> <52E54E34.7080709@gentoo.org> <52E5543B.4070808@gmail.com> <52E556F0.3040908@gentoo.org> <20140126232619.GA9429@laptop.home> <52E646A5.3060203@gentoo.org> <52E721A8.5050805@gentoo.org> <52E7F1F7.2020508@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <52E7F1F7.2020508@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1312a44c-2819-4b1a-8f2b-3a4b1e76fcb7 X-Archives-Hash: b10b8003a0d2949310bce547a39ab850 hasufell wrote: > If we support disabling all useflags on package level (and we do), > then we support disabling all on global level as well. All > _unexpected_ breakage that occurs due to that are ebuild bugs that > have incorrect dependencies or missing REQUIRED_USE constraints. > > Defaults are just a usability thing, nothing more. Amen. The notion that a particular USE flag combination is 'wrong' for a package is nonsensical. The notion that a user is culpable for QA issues that are solely the preserve of the maintainer even the more so. Any such issues should either be fixed or the options afforded to the user redacted if the maintainer is unwilling or incapable of supporting them. Scolding those users who have the audacity to configure Gentoo to serve their requirements is a distraction, to put it politely. --Kerin