[gentoo-user] [gnome3 stable] Not as bad as I expected

[gentoo-user] [gnome3 stable] Not as bad as I expected

[walt]

I've been preparing for gnome3 for many months by running it in a
virtualbox gentoo-guest machine.  I missed a very important gnome3
feature by doing it that way :(

The gnome-shell desktop has a 'gestures-based' feature, which exposes
the favorites menu if you move the mouse pointer *very* quickly to the
left upper corner of the screen.  Who knew?

Well, I didn't know until yesterday because virtualbox allows the mouse
pointer to slide right off of the guest window onto my real desktop
without notifying the guest machine, apparently.

Anyway, the active-left-upper-corner feature saves me one annoying extra
mouse-click when launching the apps I use all day long.  That one extra
mouse-click was a major gnome3 "bug" for me, but now it's just a virtual
bug :)

For us old gnome2 farts who don't know where to begin with gnome3, I'd
suggest installing two gnome-shell extensions that may save you many
hours of bewilderment:

First, the "settings center" extension, which exposes several important
sub-menus that are otherwise nearly impossible to find.

Second, the "system-monitor" extension, which replaces the multiload
gnome-panel applet that I can't live without.  The gnome extension
website offers several 'system-monitor' applets, but the one I'm now
using is the one written by 'darkxst'.  So happy :)

I strongly suggest emerging the 'alacarte' and 'gnome-tweak-tool'
packages from gnome-extra.  They are not installed by default when
emerging 'gnome', but I couldn't use gnome without them.

Happy to answer any gnome3 questions if I can.

Re: [gentoo-user] [gnome3 stable] Not as bad as I expected

[Alecks Gates]

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:10 PM, walt <w41ter@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been preparing for gnome3 for many months by running it in a
> virtualbox gentoo-guest machine.  I missed a very important gnome3
> feature by doing it that way :(
>
> The gnome-shell desktop has a 'gestures-based' feature, which exposes
> the favorites menu if you move the mouse pointer *very* quickly to the
> left upper corner of the screen.  Who knew?
>
> Well, I didn't know until yesterday because virtualbox allows the mouse
> pointer to slide right off of the guest window onto my real desktop
> without notifying the guest machine, apparently.
>
> Anyway, the active-left-upper-corner feature saves me one annoying extra
> mouse-click when launching the apps I use all day long.  That one extra
> mouse-click was a major gnome3 "bug" for me, but now it's just a virtual
> bug :)

There's an even faster way -- something I couldn't live without and
possibly the only thing that makes Unity/Gnome3/Windows 8 usable to
me:  Press the "super" key (the Windows key on my keyboard by default,
but it's configurable).  I *hate* having to use my mouse so much to
access programs and in *all three* of these interfaces I can avoid the
mouse much more with the same shortcut.  Check out the Gnome Shell
cheat sheet[0] if you haven't already.

>
> For us old gnome2 farts who don't know where to begin with gnome3, I'd
> suggest installing two gnome-shell extensions that may save you many
> hours of bewilderment:
>
> First, the "settings center" extension, which exposes several important
> sub-menus that are otherwise nearly impossible to find.
>
> Second, the "system-monitor" extension, which replaces the multiload
> gnome-panel applet that I can't live without.  The gnome extension
> website offers several 'system-monitor' applets, but the one I'm now
> using is the one written by 'darkxst'.  So happy :)
>
> I strongly suggest emerging the 'alacarte' and 'gnome-tweak-tool'
> packages from gnome-extra.  They are not installed by default when
> emerging 'gnome', but I couldn't use gnome without them.
>
> Happy to answer any gnome3 questions if I can.
>
>

[0] https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

-- 
Alecks Gates

Re: [gentoo-user] [gnome3 stable] Not as bad as I expected

[wraeth]

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On 14/12/13 12:10, walt wrote:
> I've been preparing for gnome3 for many months by running it in a 
> virtualbox gentoo-guest machine.  I missed a very important gnome3 feature
> by doing it that way :(
> 
> The gnome-shell desktop has a 'gestures-based' feature, which exposes the
> favorites menu if you move the mouse pointer *very* quickly to the left
> upper corner of the screen.  Who knew?
> 
> Well, I didn't know until yesterday because virtualbox allows the mouse 
> pointer to slide right off of the guest window onto my real desktop without
> notifying the guest machine, apparently.
> 
> Anyway, the active-left-upper-corner feature saves me one annoying extra 
> mouse-click when launching the apps I use all day long.  That one extra 
> mouse-click was a major gnome3 "bug" for me, but now it's just a virtual 
> bug :)
> 
> For us old gnome2 farts who don't know where to begin with gnome3, I'd 
> suggest installing two gnome-shell extensions that may save you many hours
> of bewilderment:
> 
> First, the "settings center" extension, which exposes several important 
> sub-menus that are otherwise nearly impossible to find.
> 
> Second, the "system-monitor" extension, which replaces the multiload 
> gnome-panel applet that I can't live without.  The gnome extension website
> offers several 'system-monitor' applets, but the one I'm now using is the
> one written by 'darkxst'.  So happy :)
> 
> I strongly suggest emerging the 'alacarte' and 'gnome-tweak-tool' packages
> from gnome-extra.  They are not installed by default when emerging 'gnome',
> but I couldn't use gnome without them.
> 
> Happy to answer any gnome3 questions if I can.
> 
> 
> 

Just for reference, I don't think the hot-corner issue a bug but a result of
how it operates.

If i'm not mistaken, the hot corner has to be activated by the mouse cursor
actually hitting the corner.  With the typical way the virtual machine works,
with the mouse not actually 'entering' the environment, it's almost impossible
to hit the corner properly as it transitions seamlessly between the guest and
the host.

Two ways to address this are to use the virtual machine in fullscreen mode
(meaning that the corner really is the corner) or to have the virtual machine
fully capture the mouse (requiring it to be released by use of the 'host' key
(generally Right-CTRL).

If you can, give it a try and let me know if it works :)

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wraeth
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[gentoo-user] Re: [gnome3 stable] Not as bad as I expected

[walt]

On 12/14/2013 12:54 AM, wraeth wrote:
> On 14/12/13 12:10, walt wrote:

> 
>> The gnome-shell desktop has a 'gestures-based' feature, which exposes the
>> favorites menu if you move the mouse pointer *very* quickly to the left
>> upper corner of the screen.  Who knew?
> 
>> Well, I didn't know until yesterday because virtualbox allows the mouse 
>> pointer to slide right off of the guest window onto my real desktop without
>> notifying the guest machine, apparently.
> 
> 
> If i'm not mistaken, the hot corner has to be activated by the mouse cursor
> actually hitting the corner.  With the typical way the virtual machine works,
> with the mouse not actually 'entering' the environment, it's almost impossible
> to hit the corner properly as it transitions seamlessly between the guest and
> the host.
> 
> Two ways to address this are to use the virtual machine in fullscreen mode
> (meaning that the corner really is the corner) or to have the virtual machine
> fully capture the mouse (requiring it to be released by use of the 'host' key
> (generally Right-CTRL).
> 
> If you can, give it a try and let me know if it works :)

Unfortunately it doesn't work for me.  Sees like it should though.