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[196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n6sm12181291wix.3.2013.12.10.23.38.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:38:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52A81672.1000303@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:38:26 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base References: <201312071017.06217.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201312071103.01832.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <2037896.ED0fplVgQq@wstn> <201312102349.08589.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201312102349.08589.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f2ff1491-c7bb-46b1-9db6-fe6d60d0fb4c X-Archives-Hash: 64a9292bf2ef54b834a4a0753d553315 On 11/12/2013 01:49, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:29:25 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:03:00 Mick wrote: >>> Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to use >>> gstreamer? >> >> Not here, no. I have gstreamer but no gnome-base on this KDE box (not >> ~amd64). In fact, "eix -I gnome" returns only polkit-gnome. I see that's >> only there because I've inherited a gtk USE flag from the desktop profile. >> >> I've now set -gtk in make.conf and I'm reinstalling world (13 packages, >> including gcc and libre-office) to check that I really don't need gtk. Even >> gimp doesn't need gtk! > > Interesting! I seem to have two packages from gnome: > > # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome > > Calculating dependencies... done! > app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 pulled in by: > kde-base/print-manager-4.10.5 requires app-admin/system-config-printer- > gnome > > # emerge --depclean -v -a gnome-base/gnome-common > > Calculating dependencies... done! > gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4 pulled in by: > dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3 requires gnome-base/gnome-common > > Not sure why they are being pulled in as dependencies ... ? > The KDE print manager has a long history of being broken beyond belief. >From watching what changes over the years since 4.0 I reckon the devs finally gave up and instead pinched useful bits out of gnome to get the damn stuff to work right kde-base/print-manager has a hard dep on app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome and that uses app-admin/system-config-printer-common Don't worry about the bits with gnome in the name, those two packages are very small and provide utility functions. They do come from the gnome project but they form plumbing and are not gnome-specific $ equery files gnome-common * Searching for gnome-common ... * Contents of gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4: /usr /usr/bin /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh /usr/bin/gnome-doc-common /usr/share /usr/share/aclocal /usr/share/aclocal/gnome-code-coverage.m4 /usr/share/aclocal/gnome-common.m4 /usr/share/aclocal/gnome-compiler-flags.m4 /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.7.4 /usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.7.4/ChangeLog.bz2 /usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.7.4/README.doc-build.bz2 /usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.7.4/usage.txt.bz2 /usr/share/gnome-common /usr/share/gnome-common/data /usr/share/gnome-common/data/omf.make /usr/share/gnome-common/data/xmldocs.make $ equery files system-config-printer-common * Searching for system-config-printer-common ... * Contents of app-admin/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3: /etc /etc/cupshelpers /etc/cupshelpers/preferreddrivers.xml /etc/dbus-1 /etc/dbus-1/system.d /etc/dbus-1/system.d/com.redhat.NewPrinterNotification.conf /etc/dbus-1/system.d/com.redhat.PrinterDriversInstaller.conf /lib /lib/udev /lib/udev/rules.d /lib/udev/rules.d/70-printers.rules /lib/udev/udev-add-printer /lib/udev/udev-configure-printer /usr /usr/lib /usr/lib/systemd /usr/lib/systemd/system /usr/lib/systemd/system/configure-printer@.service /usr/lib64 /usr/lib64/python2.7 /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers-1.0-py2.7.egg-info /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/__init__.py /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/config.py /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/cupshelpers.py /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/installdriver.py /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/openprinting.py /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/ppds.py /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/xmldriverprefs.py /usr/share /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3 /usr/share/doc/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3/AUTHORS.bz2 /usr/share/doc/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3/ChangeLog.bz2 /usr/share/doc/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3/README.bz2 /usr/share/system-config-printer /usr/share/system-config-printer/PhysicalDevice.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/SearchCriterion.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/check-device-ids.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/config.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/debug.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/dnssdresolve.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/firewallsettings.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/installpackage.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/monitor.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/ppdippstr.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/probe_printer.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/smburi.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/statereason.py /usr/share/system-config-printer/xml /usr/share/system-config-printer/xml/preferreddrivers.rng /usr/share/system-config-printer/xml/validate.py -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com